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This Might Be The Greatest Spectrum Of Vehicle Size Under One Name: Cold Start

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Here’s something to think about: for any given automotive marque, what is the greatest variance of vehicle size for the vehicles that wear that marque? Sure, the size difference between a Ford Festiva and a Ford Expedition is big, but it’s less than, say, a Ford Fiesta and Ford Trimotor, for example. But even that difference in scale is nothing compared to what I think is the biggest size delta of any carmaker brand: Hyundai. Hyundai has made tiny city cars like the Hyundai Atos up there and they also build colossal container ships under the Hyundai name, too. That’s a massive spectrum of sizes for vehicles wearing the Hyundai brand.

Can any other carmaker even come close to that? I mean, Chrysler back in the 1960s and 1970s sort of could have made a claim, sort of. I mean, there was this:

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And yes, Chrysler had a hand in the Saturn moon rockets, but that Saturn IB there in the ad was never badged as a Chrysler anything, so it doesn’t count. And, even if it did, I think it’d still be smaller than a container ship.

Am I missing a company here? Is there a company that makes microcars and gigantic cruise ships under the same name? I don’t think so?

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Slow Joe Crow
Slow Joe Crow
11 months ago

I think Kawasaki and Mitsubishi still build ships which puts,them in a similar size range. If you limit it to wheeled vehicles with the same name then it’s probably a toss up between Volvo and GM Since Volvo makes some huge construction machinery under the Volvo truck corporate umbrella.

Gee See
Gee See
1 year ago

Large conglomerates which share the same brand names across different businesses seem to have gone extinct. I blame modern marketing and also anti monopoly laws.. I would say Mitsubishi is another one. Both Japan and Korea have Chaebol or their equivalents (Saab and Nokia I know they don’t make cars). I am sure the Agnellis have their fingers in a lot of things too.

I still have a Commodore file cabinet, I guess that is an analog file manager. These days with private equity firms you get more value out by subdividing your company.. good or bad.. who knows.

Last edited 1 year ago by Gee See
Jakob K's Garage
Jakob K's Garage
1 year ago

I rented an Atos once, and leaned my average sized behind against the front fender, which resulted in a big dent. I found a stick on the ground and poked it out from a factory hole in the engine compartment. Looked okay enough to not mention that when I turned it in again. Only car I’ve ever tried that with..
Haven’t much experience with the big ones. Just try to keep out of their way when sailboating.

Aaron
Aaron
1 year ago

In 1969-1971, General Motors built the EMD DDA40X locomotive which clocked in at 545,000 lbs. In 1987, they (co)built the Sunraycer solar car that weighed 585 lbs. That’s a 932:1 weight disparity

If you want to get more specific and limit it to production passenger vehicles manufactured at the same time… In 1989, GM made the M100 Series Lotus Elan (2198 lbs) and the Amtrak EMD F40PH (282,000 lbs) for a 128:1 ratio on weight.

...getstoneyII
...getstoneyII
1 year ago
Reply to  Aaron

GM also built quite a few diesel and diesel electrics for South Africa Railways. I didn’t dig through every one to see if any are heavier than the EMD, but they built a few big boys…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_South_African_locomotive_classes

Last edited 1 year ago by ...getstoneyII
Andy Individual
Andy Individual
1 year ago

Hitachi also makes everything from ships to semiconductors with excavators down at the small end of ‘vehicle’. I don’t recall any cars, but they do make escalators and elevators. Those would qualify as public transit, right?

Amberturnsignalsarebetter
Amberturnsignalsarebetter
1 year ago

What about Samsung? They make cell phones and supertankers

J Ludwik
J Ludwik
1 year ago

I wouldn’t call a cell phone a vehicle. They do/did also make cars though.

Bizness Comma Nunya
Bizness Comma Nunya
1 year ago
Reply to  J Ludwik

^Yeah I think that Samsung is the correct answer here.

  1. They did make trucks branded as Samsung
  2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Commercial_Vehicles
  3. They did make THE largest container ships
  4. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evergreen_A-class_container_ship

Runner up would probably be Daewoo, who even sold small cars in the U.S.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daewoo_Motors
Daewoo also made the largest ship ever to move mineral ores around the globe:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valemax

So… I guess Hyundai might be 3rd place?

Alexander Moore
Alexander Moore
10 months ago
Reply to  J Ludwik

Sadly no longer. As of 2022 ‘Renault Samsung Motors’ is now under the title ‘Renault Korea Motors’ as Samsung has dropped the name licensing deal. Also apparently they’re developing new product with Geely for some reason? As if there weren’t enough Dacias, Renaults, Nissans, or Mitsubishis to sell?

Phuzz
Phuzz
1 year ago

Daewoo also used to make everything from cars to ships, so it would probably depend on how small their smallest car was at the time.

StillNotATony
StillNotATony
1 year ago

Everything is made of star stuff, according to Carl Sagan, so I’d say the size disparity from the planet Saturn and a Saturn SC1.

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
1 year ago

LOL as if Chrysler’s business is to get you where you want to go. If it was, they’d make better cars.

Maybe Toyota, but not Chrysler!

Rock Burner
Rock Burner
1 year ago

Anyone mentioned Kawasaki?

Everything from Mega-structure buildings, through vast ships, Helicopters, Jetskis; right down to 50cc motorcycles.

Tim Cougar
Tim Cougar
1 year ago

I love that Chrysler ad. I wonder if there’s a large size print suitable for framing available.

W124
W124
1 year ago

Chrysler brochure is kinda misleading, there are even smaller Chryslers: https://www.thebrazilianconnection.com/outboardpics/80ch9.jpg

Goblin
Goblin
1 year ago

Mitsubishi.
From Mitsubishi Kei cars (smaller than the Atos) through rockets to cruise ships (smaller than a HMM Algericas-class container ship, it is true).

MaximillianMeen
MaximillianMeen
1 year ago

If we are looking percentage difference between smallest and largest, Honda’s new Motocompo is what, 30-40 times smaller than the Hyundai city car. Is their largest corporate jet less than 30 times smaller than the cargo ship? Yeah, probably not.

Last edited 1 year ago by MaximillianMeen
D.B. Platypus
D.B. Platypus
1 year ago

Are we talking length, mass, or volume?

MaximillianMeen
MaximillianMeen
1 year ago
Reply to  D.B. Platypus

{begin Michael Scott mode}
That’s what she said.
{end Michael Scott mode}

Iain Tunmore
Iain Tunmore
11 months ago

I’d say a cargo ship on the scale of the one in the top photo is easily >30 times bugger than a Honda jet. If talking fully loaded mass Id guess it might be in the order of 1000 times bigger.

Racer Esq.
Racer Esq.
1 year ago

Does the TikTok USB cable trick work on the cargo ships?

Mrbrown89
Mrbrown89
1 year ago

The company I work for (Biggest supplier on the wire harness industry) they also make HVAC systems, solar systems, they own nursing homes, agricultural farms, taxi meters. Not ships, but I just find interesting how one company have businesses on things not related to each other.

Balloondoggle
Balloondoggle
1 year ago
Reply to  Mrbrown89

How many planets in the standard solar system – are these just models of our own or wholy custom? Can I order a bespoke Pluto? How are they handling Planet X?

Sorry for the Dad Joke, but I just can’t help myself.

TheCrank
TheCrank
1 year ago
Reply to  Balloondoggle

Contact Slartibartfast. His fjords are exceptional.

Tarragon
Tarragon
1 year ago
Reply to  Balloondoggle

I read that exactly the same way. Massive double take followed by “ooooOOOoooh”

Mrbrown89
Mrbrown89
1 year ago
Reply to  Balloondoggle

lmao solar panel systems, I need more coffee

Rad Barchetta
Rad Barchetta
1 year ago
Reply to  Balloondoggle

Can I get one without Uranus? That place stinks.

MaximillianMeen
MaximillianMeen
1 year ago
Reply to  Mrbrown89

So do you work with Crowley and Aziraphale?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUnLe6gRTjQ

Phyrkrakr
Phyrkrakr
1 year ago

If we kept it strictly land-based, it’s probably Caterpillar, right? They build those massive dump trucks for mining that are like 50 feet long and 30 feet wide, but also have those tiny little excavators that can fit through a doorway.

If you just keep it to “vehicles” though, I don’t think you’re going to beat some sort of ship for the top end. Panamax container ships, for example, are 965 feet long and 106 feet wide. There’s nothing on dry earth that big. Even that giant mining thing in Germany is 200 feet short of Panamax, and those aren’t even the biggest container ships in the world.

JKcycletramp
JKcycletramp
1 year ago

Fuji Heavy Industries makes everything from Polaris snowmobiles to iconic Japanese mountains.

M0L0TOV
M0L0TOV
1 year ago
Reply to  JKcycletramp

Daewoo was like that, they had their hands in EVERYTHING.

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
1 year ago
Reply to  JKcycletramp

Fuji Heavy Industries changed their name to Subaru Corporation several years ago, they’ve downsized to just two divisions- Subaru Aerospace and Subaru Automobile, everything else has been sold off or closed down over the past couple decades

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
1 year ago

Is David going to pick you up at the airport? Wonder what he’ll be driving if he does?

Ford_Timelord
Ford_Timelord
1 year ago

Peugeot. Cars, Vans, Bicycles and Pepper grinders. So French.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
1 year ago
Reply to  Ford_Timelord

My favorite Xmas present was a Peugeot pepper grinder. I still use it almost daily.

Ford_Timelord
Ford_Timelord
1 year ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

That time I told my sister I bought a new Peugeot for Christmas and presented her with a pepper grinder.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
1 year ago
Reply to  Ford_Timelord

Lucky woman!

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
1 year ago
Reply to  Ford_Timelord

+1 came here for Pug

Don Harbidge
Don Harbidge
1 year ago

Kawasaki also makes container ships.

BolognaBurrito
BolognaBurrito
1 year ago
Reply to  Don Harbidge

I believe Mitsubishi does too, though, there’s a couple different actual companies in the overall Mitsubishi Group (Mitsubishi Motors, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries…).

Ford_Timelord
Ford_Timelord
1 year ago
Reply to  BolognaBurrito

Mitsubishi also make Pens and Pencils.

Squirrelmaster
Squirrelmaster
1 year ago
Reply to  Ford_Timelord

Indeed, Mitsubishi makes everything. They’ve got their fingers in cars, banking, pharmaceuticals, plastics, pulp & paper, chemicals, heavy machinery, oil & gas, shipping, and simple consumer products. It’s not only wild how many areas they are in, but how the company reportedly operates it’s various businesses with smaller subsidiaries treating the larger subsidiaries like it is still the feudal system.

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
1 year ago
Reply to  Squirrelmaster

It’s a keiretsu, basically an association or club of independent companies that share the same name and conduct business with each other, operating in a close alliance while maintaining separate legal identities. They own small shareholdings in each other to strengthen the alliance, but don’t exactly control each other.

The largest shareholder in Mitsubishi Motors is Nissan, at 34% (enough for veto power over the board of directors), the “lead” company in the Mitsubishi keiretsu, Mitsubishi Corporation, is the second largest shareholder, with 20%.

Ford_Timelord
Ford_Timelord
11 months ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

The Mitsubishi keiretsu are so huge that when we wanted to end native old growth logging in Tasmania, Australia. The environmental groups lobbied Mitsubishi direct and only then did the Tasmanian government agree to place FSC regulations on their logging. Cut out the middle man!

MaximillianMeen
MaximillianMeen
1 year ago
Reply to  Ford_Timelord

We had a Mitsubishi TV back in the late 80s. Lasted into the 00s.

LTDScott
LTDScott
1 year ago
Reply to  Ford_Timelord

I recently discovered my bank actually has roots with Mitsubishi!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUFG_Union_Bank

Joshua Christian
Joshua Christian
1 year ago
Reply to  Ford_Timelord

The Mitsubishi Pencil Company is actually unrelated! They even derived their three diamond star brand from a different source. Both companies use a common three-diamond logo now for branding purposes.

Ford_Timelord
Ford_Timelord
11 months ago

I didn’t know that but cheers for the update.

V10omous
V10omous
1 year ago

From 2001-2011, Northrup Grumman was the parent company of both Grumman mail trucks and Nimitz-class supercarriers. I don’t think they actually manufactured both at the same time though.

Dug Deep
Dug Deep
1 year ago
Reply to  V10omous

Grumman was my first thought. IIRC, they also made picnic coolers, though calling one a vehicle is a stretch

Aaron
Aaron
1 year ago
Reply to  V10omous

I think you could make a better case for the Grumman LLV -> Nimitz Class Carrier connection than you could the Hyundai Atos -> Hyundai container ships. Hyundai Motors and Hyundai Heavy Industries are technically different companies whereas Grumman merged into the same entity that was Newport News.

TL;DR If your container ship and your Elantra need warranty repair, different companies are taking that on. If you mail truck and aircraft carrier need warranty repair, it’s the same folks.

B P
B P
1 year ago
Reply to  V10omous

Grumman also made aluminum canoes…

Collegiate Autodidact
Collegiate Autodidact
1 year ago

This doesn’t count since it’s not mobile (besides, those ships are most likely the biggest mobile objects ever built on Earth) but how about a theme park?
https://japanesenostalgiccar.com/mitsubishi-theme-park-kamiseya-park-yokohama/

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
1 year ago

Actually, the largest moving object ever built would be a 2014 Daewoo (MV Pioneering Spirit)

Last edited 1 year ago by Ranwhenparked
HerrQuattro
HerrQuattro
1 year ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

Not clear if concurrent production counts or not, but there’s also a tiny electric scooter sold by Daewoo called the D22. Not a lot of English sources about it, but I’m assuming it’s made by their consumer electronics division.

TOSSABL
TOSSABL
1 year ago

Waves back

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