Good morning! On today’s menu, we have two V6-powered sedans with Japanese roots that aren’t your everyday choices. In fact, one of them I haven’t seen for sale this nice in many years. I’m pretty excited to feature it, actually.
But we’ll get to that in a minute. First let’s check the results from yesterday. The Corvair – which is in fact a base model, thank you to those who clarified that – seems like the wiser choice, with less visible rust, and a stronger support network. But it’s the Buick Special that won the day. Hard to argue with a V8 and a manual, even a tiny V8 and a three-on-the-tree.
I’m inclined to agree. Corvairs are cool, but I’d rather hold out for a manual version, even if it were a four-door. And the later models with less-murderous rear suspensions seem like a good idea as well. Besides, the Buick makes me think of my grandpa, who was such a fan of the Special/Apollo/Skylark that he bought a new one every time GM changed the bodystyle. I don’t think he ever had a convertible, though.
I have a sort of unofficial list of cars I keep an eye out for, that I’d like to feature here, and today, we’re scratching one off that list. I have finally found a Sterling in decent condition for sale! Of course, the trouble with finding a car like that is that I always have to feature two cars, so I had to find something to put up against it. Let’s see… what’s a good comtemporary model that you don’t see too often? Aha – a Nissan Maxima. That’ll do nicely. Let’s check them out.
1987 Nissan Maxima GXE – $4,000
Engine/drivetrain: 3.0-liter overhead cam V6, four-speed automatic, FWD
Location: Roanoke, VA
Odometer reading: 84,000 miles
Operational status: Runs and drives well
During the 1980s, a huge number of cars switched from rear- to front-wheel-drive. The typical reason was for packaging: It’s easier to fit a large passenger compartment in a smaller (and therefore lighter and more efficient) car if you cram all the drivetrain components into the front. In 1985, it was the Nissan Maxima’s turn to make the switch.
The previous RWD Maxima used an inline six from the earlier Z-cars, but obviously that wasn’t going to fit transversely in a FWD application. Fortunately, Nissan had just replaced the inline engine in the Z with a new V6, which fit just fine. It’s not an easy engine bay to work in, but it is a good car to drive. This one has only 84,000 miles on it, and runs well. It is an automatic, which takes away some of the fun, but it seems like most low-mileage survivors of this sort are automatics; the manuals get “funned” to death.
It’s a lower-tier GXE model, so it makes do with analog gauges and cloth seats, but it still has plenty of power toys, and I seem to remember those seats being mighty comfy. The seller says the heat and air conditioning both work just fine, too. Unfortunately, in 1987, Nissan saw fit to install motorized seat belts in the Maxima, adding an unnecessary annoyance to an otherwise nice car.
It’s rust-free, and most of its paint is still shiny; it must have been garaged most of the time. I could do without those aftermarket rain awnings on the windows, but I imagine they come off easily enough. I have to confess it hurts a little to see “Antique Vehicle” plates on a car that was new when I was a freshman in high school, but I suppose neither this car nor I are as young as we once were.
1988 Sterling 825 SL – $5,000
Engine/drivetrain: 2.5-liter overhead cam V6, four-speed automatic, FWD
Location: Hampton, GA
Odometer reading: 130,000 miles
Operational status: Runs and drives well
British Leyland car sales in America fizzled out in the early 1980s. MG ceased production of the MGB and Midget in 1980, and Triumph axed the Spitfire the same year, leaving only Triumph’s TR7 and TR8 to carry the sports car flag. Rover, which had last sold cars in the US in 1971, attempted to come back in 1980 with the disastrous SD-1. You had no idea that car was ever sold here, did you? Yeah. Exactly. In 1987, they tried again, with the Honda-based Rover 800 series, badged here as the Sterling 825.
The 825 shares its basic mechanical design with the Acura Legend, including its transverse V6 engine and four-speed automatic transmission. However, this car was built in England, not Japan, by the Rover Group, which was basically the wreckage of old British Leyland. It uses Lucas electrical components, and its build quality leaves something to be desired. Needless to say, this car did not gain a sterling reputation here in America (see what I did there?). This one, however, has been carefully maintained, and runs and drives well, despite having reached British car old age at 130,000 miles.
It’s the SL model, the fancy one, with lots of leather and wood inside. The driver’s seat is a little rough, but otherwise it looks pretty good inside. The seller claims that “everything works,” a bold claim for a car like this. I want to believe it’s true. This is a nice car, when everything is working properly, much more luxurious than its Acura cousin. I really want it to be as good as they say it is.
It looks nice and clean outside. The styling isn’t much to write home about on these; it looks a lot like an Acura Legend, or an Eagle Premier, or any number of other sedans from its era, but it’s handsome with its two-tone paint and basket-weave wheels. I see a few blemishes, but nothing too serious, and this is firmly in “oh yeah? Find another one for sale” territory, so you kind of have to take it or leave it.
These were both mainstream four-door sedans in their day, but now, due to age and rarity, they’re both specialty vehicles, probably not suitable for daily use, unless you’re both brave and handy. Are they classics yet? I guess that depends on your perspective. They’re both definitely a more interesting alternative to a Camry or a Cutlass Ciera. Which one would you take home?
(Image credits: sellers)
That maxima is where it’s at! I can’t remember if that’s the original bottle where they put the sticker on the rear quarter window that said 4DSC
The Maxima is cool no doubt, but I want that Sterling. I always have, I’ll wrench on it enough to make sure it works.
I admit the Sterling is a more attractive looking vehicle. But $1,000 more, Lucas electrics, British build quality, twice the miles? No thanks the Nissan Maximus buy a kilometer.
Thanks for reminding me that the Sterling was a thing.
The heart wants the Sterling. The brain overruled. Maxima.
The Sterling is still stupidly elegant. It will be a pain, but that’s what I’d choose.
What is stunning to me is that it appears all the trim is still hanging onto the Sterling –
I remember at the SF Auto Show when these were introduced – the cars on display were shedding parts like a crab shedding its shell.
“I have to confess it hurts a little to see “Antique Vehicle” plates on a car that was new when I was a freshman in high school, but I suppose neither this car nor I are as young as we once were.”
Dude, I recently put antique plates on my ’99 Corolla. Coincidentally, I graduated high school in 1999.
Anyways, I chose the Maxima. My Grandma had a blue Maxima wagon. It’s the car of hers I remember her keeping the shortest length of time, but it’s the car of hers I remember the most fondly.
Congratulations! You are now eligible for antique status!
P.S. I graduated HS in 1989.
I have started feeling for arthritis in my hands and wrists recently …
It’s hip to be square: I’ll take the L7 Maxima.
Holy crap. That Maxima is probably the exact model that my former in-laws used to have. Remember driving it with them in it and nervous as hell. Won’t say anything about the ex-wife.
Roanoke? Crap, that’s really close to me. Stop tempting me, Tucker.
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Bad influence. Bad! No 76 trombones.
(Ignoring the classic Saabs classifieds I have bookmarked)
I lived in the Bay Area in the age of Sterling. They were for posers.
Well, Martin Swig did have the franchise for San Francisco….
I appreciate the novelty of the Sterling, but the Maxima is a pretty good deal. Not really a “classic”, but worth the price and a decent car.
I firmly believe anything over 100,000 miles needs to be under $5,000.
I’ve actually seen this particular Sterling on the road. Nice looking if a bit anonymous.
But given Sterling’s less-than-Sterling reputation, and the thought of trying to source parts for a 35 year old British orphan, I’ll go with the Nissan.
I Parts wouldn’t be easy, IMO. I honestly can’t remember the last time I saw it’s UK cousin on the roads over here. I’ve seen more Bristols than Rover 800s.
We’re sure you have, but please try to stay on the subject of cars.
(Insert Sid James laugh here )
Girlfriend’s parents had an Acura Legend (with manual transmission!) and I had a summer job in the U.K. as a Rover delivery driver so experienced 825i automatics and Vitesse with the 2.7 engine as both manuals and automatics. The 2.5 couldn’t mask its lack of torque especially in manual form and the Legend interior was no different to the Accord I learned to drive on, the Rover felt much more special inside. The 2.7s were a transformation, could bounce them off the rev limiter all day (and did) they were a so smooth and the auto was a much better match. Just a shame about those electrical connectors…
Yeah, the Rovers were legitimately nice inside, except for the early models with dashboards that curled like bacon and leather that turned sickly green if you parked them in the sun (which, seriously, how does stuff like that leave the factory? You have to know that cars are going to spend some portion of their lives outside a garage)
That Maxima is local to me. Good thing it’s an automatic or I’d be going to look at it—and I really don’t need it, just really like the body style
At some point in the 90’s I had a similar vintage Maxima wagon as a pretty nice winter beater. Sadly it was that car which taught me the term “interference engine”. Seeing one still gives me a pang.
4DSC for the win, and it shouldn’t be close. A little pricey for such archeotech but it really isn’t a comparison except that they both have 4 doors.
Maxima and I would join my Sunbird at RADwood, and those window visors are period correct amazing-ness.
It wouldn’t have been a dilemma had the
RoverSterling been an 827SLi hatchback or the Maxima had been the next-generation 4DSC. And even as a sedan I preferred the squared-off lines of the Sterling to its Acura cousin, and I had a 1990 Protege for 14 years and was never bothered by the motorized belts. It’s not much of a dilemma, though – in this case a Sterling reputation is not a good thing, especially accompanied by an extra 40,000 miles, all of which appear to have been driven on the surface of the front seats.I’m amazed the Sterling still has intact turn signal and corner light lenses. The vast majority of them don’t, and back in the day I made a few bucks selling every Sterling corner light lense I could find at the junkyard on eBay.
Voted Stirling only out of patriotism for my homeland. My boss at my first job had a Rover Vitesse which was a 2nd generation Sterling fitted with Rover’s own 2.0 Turbo engine. I remember it when well even it if had a lot of torque steer and some off the most uncomfortable seats I’ve experienced in a car (they were Recaros too).
Ugh. That Sterling’s seat has seen more ass than a Motley Crue roadie.
I like the Sterling for the novelty factor. But the Maxima is cheaper, has less mileage and doesn’t have bad looking seats.
So the Maxima gets my vote.
Sterling, but I’d *much* rather have the 827sli.
both crack pipe prices, but the Maxima is in better shape and it’s the better car