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Vermont Will No Longer Register Cars In Any State Because People Couldn’t Stop Doing Crimes

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For the past several years, it’s been an open secret that Vermont is America’s Department of Motor Vehicles. Everyone from Doug DeMuro to myself have talked about registering some crapbox or school bus using the once-magical Vermont DMV. Seriously, Vermont was willing to register just about any vehicle to any person living anywhere in the United States so long as they could fulfill some very basic requirements. This has been a godsend to anyone rescuing a barn find motorcycle, saving a car from the crusher, or building a bus into a motorhome. Unfortunately, not everyone had honest intentions and many people used Vermont to register stolen cars or to run a weird quasi DMV of their own. Now, because of these people, Vermont has closed up its DMV to outsiders.

Nearly three years ago, I was a fresh face over at Jalopnik. My girlfriend (now wife) bought me a school bus and I bragged to my colleagues about how I made it legal to drive thanks to Vermont. Normally, you would need a CDL to drive a large school bus, but thanks to Vermont’s then incredibly loose rules, my bus was easily registered as a motorhome.

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This shocked my colleagues so much that my editor told me to write about it. I obliged, and ever since, I worried that my article was going to be the reason Vermont reversed course. But I wasn’t the only one. YouTube personalities like Doug DeMuro talked about using the Vermont registration “loophole” and even Hagerty still has multiple articles up about Vermont that predate my own. In fact, I learned about the loophole from someone on Opposite-Lock and used the plethora of then-existing online tutorials to figure it out for myself.

Following that article, my inbox was filled with nastygrams from people saying–and this is watering it down–that I killed a secret. However, the piece didn’t actually get as many clicks as you’d think, and for more than two years after, you could still register vehicles in Vermont while living anywhere in the country. Weirdly, Vermont temporarily even extended the scope of its mail-order DMV during the pandemic. For the price of just $6, you were able to register any car in any state and you didn’t even need to prove that you owned it. You got your plates instantly onto your phone or printed out. Absurd, right?

Back in 2020, I spoke with a Vermont DMV official and they informed me that they were well aware that people in other states were using Vermont as a mail-order DMV. At the time, the general consensus appeared to be that car and motorcycle enthusiasts were basically paying the state money to never drive their cars in the state. Vermont requires inspections and Vermont can’t inspect a car that’s in, say, Wisconsin. Thus, Vermont-plated cars from other states were technically illegal to drive in Vermont unless they were inspected.

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Unfortunately, the wrong crowd got attracted to the Vermont loophole and started using it to register stolen cars as well as other shady practices. Things apparently got violent, too. So, as of June 26, 2023, the loophole is officially closed.

What Was The Loophole Anyway?

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Mercedes Streeter

I could not determine the exact moment when Vermont became a mail-order DMV, but I can tell you that it’s been going on for at least a decade. I’m sure many readers are scratching their heads about this, too. Over the years, I’ve met countless people who couldn’t wrap their heads around how Vermont’s DMV operated. Since the loophole is now closed, I’ll explain how it worked.

Here’s a situation perhaps countless car enthusiasts have encountered. You found a rusty car in a barn and have decided to save it. It doesn’t have a title and who knows when it last had one. This car is savable, but you live in a state that requires a title. Sure, you could go through your own DMV to get a bonded title or some other route to make the car legal, but this takes time and often lots of money. For example, here’s how my state of Illinois handles bonded titles:

A bond is required when standard ownership documents (i.e., assigned title) cannot be surrendered with an Application for Certificate of Title (625 ILCS 5/3-109). The Secretary of State may, as a condition of issuing a Certificate of Title, require the applicant to file a bond in the amount equal to one and one-half times the current wholesale value of the vehicle. The filing of this bond will protect the Secretary of State’s office and any prior owner or lienholder as well as any subsequent purchasers, or person acquiring security interest or respective successors, against any expense, loss or damage due to the issuance of a Certificate of Title. The bond (and the deposit filed with a cash bond) must be returned at the expiration of three (3) calendar years from the date of filing, unless the Secretary of State has been notified pending any action to recover on the bond.

For Illinois, wholesale value is determined by a written appraisal by a licensed new or used car dealer. Fellow hooptie lover Stephen Walter Gossin tells me that in his state, the previous owner has to go to the DMV with you and there are additional hurdles that make it not worth it for cheap cars. This all sounds like a major headache if you’ve just rescued a $500 car or motorcycle from the scrapper. And remember, you can’t legally drive the vehicle to get it appraised, so there’s another expense. Would I have gotten a bonded title for this clapped out Toyota Camry that I used as a rally car? Absolutely not!

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This is where Vermont came in. The state does not title vehicles that are 15 years old or older. If the hooptie you’re saving is old enough, all of the proof of ownership you need is a bill of sale and a VIN verification, both of which take no effort to obtain. If you’re dealing with motorcycles, the state doesn’t title anything under 300cc. So, you could buy a brand new scooter and register it in Vermont without issue. Vermont also doesn’t title trailers under 1,500 pounds or electric motorcycles making less than 20 kW of power.

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The state was also an incredible resource for people converting former commercial vehicles into motorhomes. See, many states have a list of requirements before they’ll let you register a bus or similar into an RV. Once again, we’ll look at Illinois, which says you need at least four of the following:

a) A cooking facility with an on-board fuel source;
b) A gas or electric refrigerator;
c) A toilet with exterior evacuation;
d) A heating or air conditioning system with an on-board power or fuel source separate from the vehicle engine;
e) A potable water supply system that includes at least a sink, a faucet, and a water tank with an exterior service supply connection;
f) A 110-125 volt electric power supply

Now, these requirements aren’t too hard to meet. In theory, you could just cobble something together just to pass the inspection. Problem is, there’s a whole headache before this happens. If the vehicle is a bus, you very likely need a license in the proper weight class before you could even drive it off of the seller’s property. Even if you do have a proper license, you will need insurance and you might run into problems if the vehicle isn’t registered as an RV first. Sadly, I speak from experience. My RTS bus wasn’t registered as an RV at first and my insurance company wouldn’t even touch it. My wife’s insurance company required the bus to be converted into an RV and for said conversion to have been done by a specially-licensed company.

This is where Vermont really shined. The state does not require you to prove that a vehicle is an RV. Instead, you just told the state you wanted a motorhome registration and you’d get one.

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Mercedes Streeter

Until June 26th, when you visited the Vermont DMV website’s FAQ section, you would find that the state said that you didn’t need to live in Vermont to register a car in Vermont. But how did that work?

It was actually frighteningly simple. All you had to do was fill out Vermont form VD-119 with your actual information, include a bill of sale, include a proof of VIN check, include a check for the fees, then send that baby off to Vermont. If the vehicle has a title or was newer than 15 years old, substitute the VIN check and bill of sale for the title. After you let it cook for about two weeks, Vermont would send license plates back to wherever you lived in the United States. Two weeks after that, you got your registration card, which stated in bold print that it was your proof of ownership. If you sent in a title, you’d get back a Vermont title. Boom, your vehicle is now legal.

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Why would you register a car in Vermont if you already had a title? Well, Vermont taxes are six percent of your purchase price or NADA trade-in value, whatever is higher (minimum of $500). Registration is also just $76 for cars, trucks, and motorhomes and just $48 for motorcycles. That means if you live someplace with high registration costs, you could save a ton of money by registering in Vermont. To use Illinois again, it’ll cost you a minimum of $400 to title and register a car in this state, tack on a ton more money if you live in Chicago and even more money if it’s a car that was made in the past ten years. Registering a car in Vermont is at least half of the price of registering in Illinois.

In short, Vermont has for many years been America’s DMV. If you wanted to rescue an old motorcycle from a barn, wanted to make an old hooptie road legal again, wanted to build an RV, or didn’t like your state’s taxes, Vermont openly offered a solution. Pay the state money and get back shiny plates, often without a single question asked.

Ski-Klasse is also technically a resident of Vermont!

You could then take the registration you got from Vermont, turn it in to your state’s DMV, and got the title you were seeking. Back in 2021, you were even able to buy paper plates for $6 for any vehicle, without any VIN check or proof of ownership whatsoever. You could have stolen someone’s car and registered it in mere minutes. The easy temporary plate program was eventually closed down, but I did give it a try before it shuttered and it was even easier than I make it sound.

Based on this, perhaps what happened next was always bound to happen.

Locking Down The Loophole

On June 26, 2023, Vermont updated its policies on issuing registrations to people living out of state, and it effectively closes the loophole. I was tipped off to the change by TheBarber on Opposite-Lock. Here’s the document in question:

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To save you the time of reading the whole thing, Vermont changed its policies so that you can get a plate from the state only if you can prove some sort of legitimate connection to Vermont. Perhaps you have a home there and your car spends most of its time there. Or perhaps you have a business in Vermont.

Vermont does offer a sort of weird exception, and it’s if you live in a state that does not require you to register your car to the state. However, to use that exception, you have to physically go to your state’s DMV and have your state coordinate with Vermont, proving that you can drive a Vermont-registered car wherever you live. Only then can Vermont’s mail-order DMV still work for you.

This has generated lots of questions. What caused this to happen? Who ruined the loophole? What do you do if you own a car that’s currently registered in Vermont? Doesn’t Vermont like getting free money from people who don’t even drive there? To get the answers to these questions, I reached out to Mike Smith, Deputy Commissioner of the Vermont DMV. Smith’s office responded to my questions as follows:

An increasing number of non-Vermont residents have been requesting Vermont registrations and titles for their vehicles. The practice has increased to include a group of the same individuals making these requests a few times per week on behalf of owners who are rarely, if ever, present. The owners are residents from as far away as Florida and California.

The transactions are generally delivered by “runners” that have power of attorney for the applicants. When there are paperwork issues, these runners become very hostile and belligerent to the staff as they have traveled a long way to conduct their business. Due to these hostilities, the DMV now stations sworn law enforcement officers at several branch offices. Also, DMV is seeing the same signatures on the power of attorney forms and applications, leading us to question the authenticity of these power of attorneys.

Many applicants process their transactions, receive the necessary title or registration, and then file for a refund of the registration fees because they never actually use the plate. They are coming just for the paperwork and may never even drive the vehicle. The fees generated from our out-of-state transactions should stay in the applicants’ home states and we believe that the impacted states would agree.

Some customers have been forthright about why they come to Vermont for registration and titling. Common reasons include lower costs and shorter waiting periods in Vermont. Salvage title inspections, for example, can take upwards of 6 months to complete in some states. Some states require proof of insurance before processing a transaction. Some states require a valid driver’s license to register a vehicle. It has also been determined that some of the vehicles being registered in Vermont have been stolen and some have been found to have fraudulent ownership documents.

Other states have procedures to handle these situations, so people come to Vermont to circumvent them. Vermont is enabling this behavior by assisting these applicants in avoiding the policies and procedures of their home states.

For these reasons, Vermont has established a new policy for out-of-state residents conducting business with Vermont DMV. Such customers will now complete a form that requires them to visit their home state DMV. A member of that state’s motor vehicle department/agency must certify that the applicant is not required to register their vehicle in their home state. One form is required for each vehicle. Additionally, we have created a standardized Power of Attorney form that applicants are required to use. This form must be signed by the actual owner, be witnessed and notarized, and the form must be the original. This policy is in compliance with Act No. 60 of the 2023 legislative session creating the Uniform Power of Attorney Act, which became effective July 1, 2023.

I’ve been told that those currently with Vermont registrations may renew their plates, so this largely impacts new registrations.

The short version of the story is that along with people circumventing their states’ rules and fees regarding vehicle registration, there appears to have been some shady business going on. Some people, as I predicted long ago, were using Vermont to register stolen cars. It seems some people were also registering vehicles in Vermont to avoid having car insurance and to avoid having a driver’s license. I wasn’t even aware Vermont was sending plates out to unlicensed drivers. Overall, it sounds like a lot of people were causing the state a lot of headaches.

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That aside, please don’t be hostile to DMV staff. They’re human just like you.

The concern also wasn’t just limited to Vermont. In 2022, Florida Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles issued a warning about potential title fraud utilizing Vermont registrations. Florida decided to lock down the issue by requiring the Vermont registration papers to also have a Vermont address on them.

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What’s Next

Unfortunately, the closure of Vermont’s once legendary DMV services will mean that a lot of vehicles that could be saved will now meet the business end of a crusher. Depending on where you live, it may be difficult, expensive, or outright impossible to register certain cars and motorcycles. That classic Buick in a barn may not be worth trying to save if it doesn’t come with any paperwork.

Some states, like Illinois, won’t even register a vehicle if the previous owner is deceased. That’s a problem my wife and I encountered when we bought a $600 Dodge Dakota to make into a rally truck.

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Vermont saved the day when Illinois told us to scrap the truck. Because of Vermont, that truck got to be a truck for some epic road trips rather than spend its final days rotting in a garage.

So, what can you do? We might follow this up with a 50-state explainer on registering vehicles with title problems, but for now, reach out to your state’s motor vehicle officials and ask about your options. You’ll likely be able to get a bonded title, but don’t expect that to be cheap or easy. Whatever it is, it’ll almost certainly be harder than sending a check to Vermont.

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MkeZ
MkeZ
1 year ago

This is why we can’t have nice things.

Unclewolverine
Unclewolverine
1 year ago

Kansas only requires bill of sale for antique vehicles and no inspections on anything. Catch is you have to be a resident.

Fordlover1983
Fordlover1983
1 year ago
Reply to  Unclewolverine

I’ve titled a couple of project cars for my Dad (a MO resident) this way. Get clean KS title in my name, sell it to him in 6 months. And, to be more correct, KS doesn’t require safety or emission testing, but they will do a VIN inspection/search on any vehicle brought in from another state.

Idiotking
Idiotking
1 year ago

WHEW. I made it in just under the wire; back in March I bought a 1963 IH Travelall that had been sitting in a backyard for 5+ years with no title. I followed directions I found online for exactly how to fill out the paperwork, wrote a check, and sent it in. Everyone said it would take 4-6 weeks, but I had plates on my desk in three.

Vetatur Fumare
Vetatur Fumare
1 year ago
Reply to  Idiotking

Can it now be properly titled in your home state? I feel like that would be the best option to make sure she remains on the road in the future.

Idiotking
Idiotking
1 year ago
Reply to  Vetatur Fumare

As far as I know, yes. A Vermont registration equals a valid title in any other state; that’s why it was called the Vermont Loophole. I’ll have to verify this to be sure, but I should be free and clear.

Man With A Reliable Jeep
Man With A Reliable Jeep
1 year ago

Not a wise choice. VT will be missing out on $6s of dollars.

Hoonicus
Hoonicus
1 year ago

Your telling us they’re not all; On a mission from Cherry Garcia ?!

M0L0TOV
M0L0TOV
1 year ago

Devious idea. Do an ultra-premium membership for the Autopian. The Autopian would set up an office in Vermont and the people who pay would be listed as “contributors.” They would have access to a physical address and then could register in Vermont. The business front name could be “Rust in Pieces.”

Man With A Reliable Jeep
Man With A Reliable Jeep
1 year ago
Reply to  M0L0TOV

Genius.

beachbumberry
beachbumberry
1 year ago

I ALMOST did the Vermont trick when I registered my bus in 2020. Texas rescinded their ENTIRE registration manual at the behest of Rv manufacturer and dealership lobbyists request to be rewritten to require SAE certified mechanic inspections on any and all modifications to body, suspension, frame, and drivetrains. This doesn’t get enforced in any way on passenger vehicles (because the title information doesn’t have to change), but retitling a commercial vehicle as a motor home becomes very difficult.

The big problem is they took months to issue a new registration manual and, depending on the tax office, were told not to use the old one. So some tax offices had no actual guidance on registering anything if their tax assessor told them to not use the old one.

I got mine registered by making an appointment with the state DOT with copies of the manual, photos of my bus and the conversion work done on it, and proving no structural changes had been done to it. If they had turned me away, I was doing the Vermont registration.

Texas, where you’re free to own a gun, but that’s about it.

Dead Elvis, Inc.
Dead Elvis, Inc.
1 year ago
Reply to  beachbumberry

Sounds like yet another reason not to live in Texass.

beachbumberry
beachbumberry
1 year ago

That and the y’all-qaeda. If I wasn’t from here and have my roots here, I wouldn’t live here. Eventually, I’ll be moving my family overseas permanently.

Dead Elvis, Inc.
Dead Elvis, Inc.
1 year ago
Reply to  beachbumberry

Good luck with the move. I’m grateful to be from Vermont, not Texas.

B3n
B3n
1 year ago

That’s too bad, and not a very wise choice in my opinion.
Sure, it was shady and some people abused the system. But at least you had some kind of paperwork for your vehicle that you could present when pulled over.
Now some of these VT-registered cars and bikes will now just ride dirty without any registration whatsoever, with random plates slapped on and that’s even worse.
For example an RV/bus with car plates on or a 150cc bike with title issues might run moped plates now.
Also, I don’t understand the stolen vehicles problem, how is there not a national database containing the bad VINs that every state DMV has access to?!

B3n
B3n
1 year ago

That makes sense.
By the way, what exactly happens if a vehicle is reported stolen?
Does that automatically cancel the active registration in the state where the vehicle was last registered?
If there was a shared national database, bad VINs would still be relatively easy to catch after the mail-in registration has been done in VT.
They could continuously filter such a database for bad VINs and narrow down the results only for currently active VT registrations.
Now you have a name and address for the flagged VINs.
Basically, if DMV systems were more interconnected, no hot VIN should ever have an active registration anywhere, after it’s been reported stolen.
Unless the theft is recovered later, but that’s probably a whole another process.

Alexk98
Alexk98
1 year ago

Shame they closed the loophole, it’s what saved my rear not even 6 months ago on my squareback project. I’m expecting this will turn into something like the Montana LLC loophole, especially for California residents with non-CARB compliant cars.

If you have enough money/cars, set up an LLC in Vermont for a few thousand, use it as your business address, and register all your non-CARB compliant cars in the state to get plates to drive around on. I’m sure someone will commercialize the process similar to what Dirt Legal was already doing to facilitate the VT loophole.

Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
1 year ago

As someone that lives not far from the VT border on the NY side, this has been an open secret for ages around these parts.

Shame it had to end, but it’s understandable. Then again, I’m sure someone will figure out a new loophole in short order. Or you could all just move to VT. I’d support that.

Silent But Deadly
Silent But Deadly
1 year ago

Honestly…from the Australian perspective, it’s pretty clear that the USA bureaucracy both loves and hates cars.

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
1 year ago

I would imagine that there’s a lot less variability between NSW and Queensland than there would be between American states. What kind of country has 50 completely separate sets of laws? It leads to towns like West Wendover, where every vice is legal 5 feet away from a place where every vice is illegal.

Data
Data
1 year ago

Like Moore County, Kentucky, where Jack Daniel’s is distilled but can’t be sold.

The Matts
The Matts
1 year ago
Reply to  Data

That’d be Tennessee, not Kentucky.

Data
Data
1 year ago
Reply to  The Matts

Look, I have an American public education. At least I was in the general vicinity. Kentucky is on top of Tennessee.

AlienProbe
AlienProbe
1 year ago

I guess y’all are going to have to move here (to Vermont). I welcome you personally with open arms and a beer. Vermont would love to have more Autopians.

76Eldorado
76Eldorado
1 year ago

Wow I came in just under the wire. I used Vermont to get my 76 Eldorado convertible back on the road in Chicago. The only problem I had was they valued it at $11500. So I had to pay the tax on that. I only paid $1500 for the car.

Idiotking
Idiotking
1 year ago
Reply to  76Eldorado

This. I paid $750 for my truck, and it was valued at $8000, so I had to pay the tax on that valuation. Still, it was cheaper and faster than hiring a titling service.

Jesus Helicoptering Christ
Jesus Helicoptering Christ
1 year ago

Some states, like Illinois, won’t even register a vehicle if the previous owner is deceased.

You what?
This whole article makes the system in the UK seem like it makes sense.

Phuzz
Phuzz
1 year ago

I’ve not had to use it, but as far as I can tell the UK system is: You ask the DVLA for a new V5 and send them twenty five quid. They attempt to contact the last registered keeper (they probably check it’s not reported stolen either). If they don’t get a reply, they just send you a new V5 and it’s effectively your car. Simples.

It sounds like it’s wide open to abuse, but I guess the DVLA would have made it more complicated if they had problems.

Adrian Clarke
Adrian Clarke
1 year ago
Reply to  Phuzz

I would add to this, you would be OUT OF YOUR MIND to purchase a car in the UK without a V5. Because that almost certainly means the car in question is not legit.

Phuzz
Phuzz
1 year ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

Oh, I agree, this is more for barn finds and whatnot.
(I did learn a new thing today though, I found this thread about someone trying to get their uncle’s Fiat 850 back on the road. They didn’t have a V5, instead it had “the original blue paper Norfolk county council registration card”. I never even realised that cars used to be registered by county rather than a central agency)

Stacks
Stacks
1 year ago

What a shame! I wonder how hard it is to register a business in VT. I am going to do absolutely zero investigation on this, but there’s a chance you could just pay for a VT P.O. box and fill out some paperwork calling yourself some kind of contractor. Some states do require proof of liability insurance for some businesses, but what about, like, a Montpelier dog walking service?

Or someone who lives in VT could start a tidy side gig renting out like 1 sq ft of their property to whoever wants. Be an official VT resident, with an address and everything, for just $10/mo.

Balloondoggle
Balloondoggle
1 year ago
Reply to  Stacks

I was thinking that an Airbnb address might work if you want to spend a week seeing the sights of VT while performing your nefarious paperwork.

rctothefuture
rctothefuture
1 year ago
Reply to  Stacks

I’d imagine that to register as a business, you’d need a physical address in VT. After that you’d be able to open a PO Box to ship the plates to, however I believe the VT DMV may want proof of your business and its location before shipping you plates.

Boulevard_Yachtsman
Boulevard_Yachtsman
1 year ago

Come on Montana, time to pick up the slack!

Greg
Greg
1 year ago

edit:looks like that tax loophole is still in play, I thought they were going to close it.

Last edited 1 year ago by Greg
Not Sure
Not Sure
1 year ago

“Or perhaps you have a business in Vermont”

DMV: “Why do the owners of a creepy discount store in Barre, VT. need to register such a huge fleet of employee vehicles?”

Autopian: “New membership perk. You need plates for something? We got em.”

Last edited 1 year ago by Not Sure
Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
1 year ago

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 🙁

The temp tag thing was fucking awesome! Too bad Vermont discontinued it. That shit would be a godsend for someone who purchased a car from a private seller on the weekend when the DMV is closed 🙁

PA is very easy to get a tag for to drive home. They have private tag agencies in shady strip malls you’d see one of those stupid check cashing places in, and many are open on weekends and off hours, and if you’re really lucky, the seller knows the owner of the tag shop, so they’ll open just for you so you can get your tag and drive home. However, you do need a license and insurance card.

Also, NJ doesn’t require a license to register a car, but you do have to be at least 17.

Not Sure
Not Sure
1 year ago

“Vermont changed its policies so that you can get a plate from the state only if you can prove some sort of legitimate connection to Vermont. Perhaps you have a home there and your car spends most of its time there. Or perhaps you have a business in Vermont.”

So… The Autopian is moving their “headquarters” to Vermont? (wink wink)

Last edited 1 year ago by Not Sure
Ronald Pottol
Ronald Pottol
1 year ago

As long as it will pass smog (1976 or newer, original or approved equipment only) California is very relaxed. Only minors need drivers licenses to own cars.

TXJeepGuy
TXJeepGuy
1 year ago
Reply to  Ronald Pottol

and if its a diesel, no smog.

I know a few people who bought diesel XJ’s and then swapped in whatever they wanted.

Alec Weinstein
Alec Weinstein
1 year ago
Reply to  TXJeepGuy

That’s through 1997, so ’98 or newer diesels need smog

Not Sure
Not Sure
1 year ago

So much for “Freedom and Hoonity”
Back to forgetting Vermont exists I guess.

Last edited 1 year ago by Not Sure
Cam.man67
Cam.man67
1 year ago

Oh man, this really sucks for me. I have a ‘97 Ranger I was going to get Vermont titled this upcoming winter but I guess that’s not a possibility now. I bought several years ago, non running, out of a chicken pen and naturally it had no title. Now, I use it every day around my farm, and I’ve gotten it to the point where it can safely be driven on the road. The AC works too!

Mercedes, if you do wind up writing a follow up article to this, I would love to hear your input on how to title my Ranger in MD since Vermont is no longer an option.

Cam.man67
Cam.man67
1 year ago
Reply to  Parsko

Unfortunately that one only works if I have a valid MD title number already. As I bought it without one, I’ve been told that form won’t work.

Gubbin
Gubbin
1 year ago
Reply to  Cam.man67

Hoping your experience with MD is like mine with OR. For my barn-find Allstate, they wanted to know how I got it (explained in a short letter), that I’d had it for a little while (old bill of sale) and cared about it (parts/repair receipts). Sounds like all that should be easy, assuming the VIN is clean.
Sounds like a sweet truck. And it’s already paid the chicken tax!

Andy Individual
Andy Individual
1 year ago

It would be interesting to find out what the most prevelant models of vehicles were registered under these loopholes. Somehow I’m picturing lots of 15-25 year old clapped out uninsured Altimas and Chrysler minivans careening around looking for innocent lives to ruin.

A. Barth
A. Barth
1 year ago

Dammitsomuch 🙁

Stef Schrader
Stef Schrader
1 year ago

Me, remembering how much cheese I ate (and am still eating) on the Oppo Rally:

…what if I just moved to Vermont?

Eat cheese, register crapcans, ???, eat more cheese.

Hire me, cheese farms! I can help taste test.

Dead Elvis, Inc.
Dead Elvis, Inc.
1 year ago
Reply to  Stef Schrader

“Cheese farms” sounds like something from an old Far Side cartoon.

(Ben & Jerry’s used to have official tasters, if ice cream is your preferred dairy ingestion method/dream gig.)

Stef Schrader
Stef Schrader
1 year ago

Ice cream is nice, but I prefer my dairy less sweet (…cheese, really just cheese).

Dead Elvis, Inc.
Dead Elvis, Inc.
1 year ago
Reply to  Stef Schrader

Cheese really is milk’s ultimate purpose. I can happily exist without ice cream entirely.

Take away cheese & you’ve taken away a reason to live.

Not Sure
Not Sure
1 year ago

Obligatory attachment: https://youtu.be/aMFx_U_zZKM

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1 year ago
Reply to  Stef Schrader

“The Summer of George”

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