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VW Beetle, Fiat Spider, Range Rover, Imperial: Which Of Our Project Car Winners Would You Wrench On?

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Welcome back to Shitbox Showdown! It’s Friday, and you know what that means. (No, not that. Jeez, put that thing away. Where are your manners?). It’s time to take a second look at our four daily winners, and pit them against each other in an epic battle for bragging rights. But first we need to find out who our winner from yesterday is.

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Looks like the Imperial Wallet Destroyer has it. This is, of course, the correct answer. (Oh, you didn’t know there is always a correct and incorrect answer? Sorry, did I forget to mention that?). For those who complained it was too hard to find parts for or that it had too many doors: I find your lack of faith disturbing. The Imperial is epic.

Before I recap this week’s winners, a quick word about project cars, if I may: The idea of bringing an inoperative piece of junk back from the dead (or near-dead) is not for everyone. You have to go into it on the car’s terms, not your own, and manage your expectations. Yes, your plan may have been to have it drivable in time for Cars & Coffee next weekend, but that broken lower control arm bolt has other plans. You may dream of watching heads turn as you pull onto the show field, but first you need to sort out the ignition wiring so the damn thing will start. It’s always going to be more work and more money and more time than you think, and it’s never going to be “worth it” financially. You do it for love — love of the machine, love of the process, love of that feeling of satisfaction and accomplishment when it does do what you want. And if you don’t want to do it for these things, you might as well not even buy it, and save yourself a lot of trouble.

So, in the immortal words of Bo Diddley, who do you love?

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1972 VW Super Beetle – $2,500

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This one threw me a bit; I knew the Super Beetle was sort of the red-headed stepchild of the VW world, but I didn’t know it was so divisive. Some folks really loathe the Super Beetle. But to them I say: so what? Nobody is forcing you to drive one. Let people enjoy things.

This car looks like a decent tinker-with-it-as-you-go sort of project, and those can be a lot of fun. Once you get it to a baseline standard of running reliably (which isn’t necessarily a quick process; it took me five years to get there with my MG), then you can start fixing things like the dinged-up fender and the scruffy interior. Enjoy it for the summer, then pull it into the garage for the winter to tinker, and then go show off what you fixed in the spring.

1972 Fiat 124 Sport Spider – $950

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And then there’s the basket case. Cheaper by far, but a lot more work. A car that you have to bring home in several boxes probably isn’t the best choice for your first project, but if it’s the car you just have to have, I say dive in. The best way to learn how to do something is to do it, and the best way to learn how not to do something (which is at least as important) is by doing it wrong. It may feel like failure at the time, but it’s not. It’s a step in the right direction.

This particular car at least escapes the biggest Fiat worry: rust. I imagine that’s why several body panels are different colors; it’s the least rusty bits of a couple of cars. But it’s one less thing to worry about. Get a good coat of paint on it (needn’t be anything concours-worthy, just shiny and all one color) and then concentrate on the mechanicals. You will probably have to track down some parts, but they’re out there, and the price of entry is cheap enough to not fret over a few incidentals later.

2004 Range Rover – $1500

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Fixing up modern cars to flip is the one instance where you might – might – be able to get your money back, or even make a little, if you choose the right cars and are comfortable doing all the work yourself. I’ve seen people “ratchet up” projects like this — buy for $1000, fix for $1000, sell for $2000, spend that $2000 on the next one, and so forth, until you get to the car you actually wanted. But you can just as easily get burned by an unforeseen and expensive repair, or worse, something that’s not repairable at all. [Editor’s note: I don’t think Mark’s math quite works out, here.]

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This Range Rover sounds like the right project for the right person. That person is not me, but several commenters sounded like folks who know these vehicles well enough to take it on. You’d end up with a very nice ride for not much money, if you play your cards right.

1957 Imperial – $1,500

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It’s not quite a Chrysler, but it is as big as a whale, and it needs to set sail. I admit it: the Fairlane was just a ringer I stuck in there so I had something to pit against this big blue monster so I had an excuse to write about it. (Sorry, Ford fans). It’s not my favorite Forward Look car; that would be the 1960 DeSoto Adventurer (yes, because of Sam & Max), but it is mind-bendingly cool.

Several commenters thought this engineless car would be a good candidate for electrification. I hadn’t thought about that, but it does seem well-suited. It already weighs as much as a small office building, so a half-ton of batteries hardly matters. And big smooth power would suit its character perfectly. Oh, and “AMPerial”? Genius, you guys. Absolute gold.

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And that’s it for another week. No real theme next week; I think I’m just going to look for unusual stuff — cars you don’t often see for sale at any price. I think I can come up with eight of them. See you next time! Don’t forget to vote!

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Doctor Nine
Doctor Nine
2 years ago

I’m a sucker for a rag top. The Fiat, because the Imperial is a four-door sedan. Now if it were a convertible… well… THAT is another story!

ES
ES
2 years ago

Sooo, for the AMPerial fans – does anyone else see the trunk-lid spare tire cover being replaced with giaganitc led charge indicator?

Justin Short
Justin Short
2 years ago

Had a 70 Fiat 124, and a 73 Super Beetle, so it’s a damned hard choice here!
I’m going with the Fiat, because it’s a convertible, yes I Know it’s more frustrating Work to get it done, but in the end there are a lot more Beetles out there than Spiders.
All Y’all Imperial voters must be masochists! (runs for cover)
Thanks Mark, now I’m dreaming of Fiats in testarossa red

Jmtucker3
Jmtucker3
2 years ago
Reply to  Mark Tucker

And one of Fiat’s prettiest designs. Also, the interest in the big blue Imperial is pleasing.

Kenneth Penney
Kenneth Penney
2 years ago

I picked the Rover just for reasons. It seemed like the one easiest to get on the road. I’d probably regret it at least three or four times a year.

Lew Schiller
Lew Schiller
2 years ago

I’m going with the Fiat if only because I had an ’80 124 – my first convertible – and I loved it.

Jalop Gold
Jalop Gold
2 years ago

I went with neither euro earlier this week, but I’m going Rover today because I could get it done and gone the fastest.

PaysOutAllNight
PaysOutAllNight
2 years ago

The Imperial is the right choice here. Even if you don’t turn it into a Goth limousine.

Just look at the little golden crowns over the headlights!

Thomas Metcalf
Thomas Metcalf
2 years ago

I’ll go for baroque and vote Imperial.

Acrimonious Mofo
Acrimonious Mofo
2 years ago
Reply to  Thomas Metcalf

Touché

Dave Horchak
Dave Horchak
2 years ago

Funny thing as hard as parts are to find for some of these projects I find it harder to find the daily vote poll. Perhaps another thing not to duplicate from Jalopnik?

Jared Lokay
Jared Lokay
2 years ago

Wait!! I am confused. Is this a poll to decide which one we would pick for a project or which one will consume the most time and money? LOL

Justin Short
Justin Short
2 years ago
Reply to  Jared Lokay

Yes!

SYKO Simmons
SYKO Simmons
2 years ago

Definitely the big Chrysler…that’s as big as a whale about to set sail!

Dusty Kornphartz
Dusty Kornphartz
2 years ago

Fiat…
Turbo K20 or Hayabusa swap. rattle can black.

05LGT
05LGT
2 years ago

My own imp of the perverse whispered; “Amperial will never sound right. There’s another way to make a heavy car move.” Then the mini-devil burst into orange trackday smelling flames and screamed so loud the whole right side of my head is still ringing “Trackhawk the Imperial!”

Jeff Gillio
Jeff Gillio
2 years ago

That Imperial is so cool! I think the EV idea is great too.

Shop-Teacher
Shop-Teacher
2 years ago

Imperial, Imperial, Imperial, Imperial. I like the electrification idea, but I could never see it through. Drop in a Mopar crate engine, clean the interior, slather some “shine juice” on the exterior, and cruise in slow style.

TurdSandwhich
TurdSandwhich
2 years ago

What car shows are you going to that have a dozen Imperials?

Shop-Teacher
Shop-Teacher
2 years ago
Reply to  TurdSandwhich

Seriously! I’m not sure I’ve ever seen one Imperial in person.

Mr.Asa
Mr.Asa
2 years ago

Beetle is too expensive for what I want to do, Range Rover: LOL, Imperial is too damned big and unwieldy to do more than eat up highway miles or do a slow cruise.

Fiat all day.

Henrik
Henrik
2 years ago

I’d go for the imperial barge myself. Just drop in an old boat anchor big-block and go cruising . Seriously, what with you guys wanting to convert everything to electric.

stewartsoda
stewartsoda
2 years ago

I’ve already got one ’72 Super Beetle project, this one is pretty good on price/value if you’re looking to get into ACVWs.

CatMan
CatMan
2 years ago

It’s gonna cost a whole lot more than just Jukebox Money, but the Imperial is too good to pass on

IRegertNothing, Esq.
IRegertNothing, Esq.
2 years ago

It’s gotta be the Imperial. Swap in a wrecked Tesla’s motor and batteries, clear coat the patina, and do… something with that ratty interior to make it fit for civilized butt cheeks. You will have the coolest and most unique car on the block. Unless of course your neighbor is Jay Leno with his steam cars.

Acrimonious Mofo
Acrimonious Mofo
2 years ago

I guess in some vague abstract intellectual sense I understand the appeal of the Imperial, and it’s probably going to win this thing, but to me it’s just a gigantic barge with some garishly baroque flourishes. I like my cars lithe and nimble. If it wasn’t on the other side of the country I’d actually consider taking on the FIAT project.

Geekycop .
Geekycop .
2 years ago

Garish, perhaps. Barge, perhaps no. . . (Checks exterior dimensions and realizes its the same size as a new 4 door F150).

Holy crap! Nevermind.

David Fernandez
David Fernandez
2 years ago

I know it’s either the Fiat or the Imperial. And I would take either, but lately I’ve been dreaming about cruising the roads on a big yacht, so the Imperial gets my vote…. This time.

marathag
marathag
2 years ago

Why not both?
Probably can fit the FIAT in the trunk of that Imperial, after all.

Isis
Isis
2 years ago

There’s not even a choice here, the Imperial is just amazing. It has to live on.

DubblewhopperInDubblejeopardy
DubblewhopperInDubblejeopardy
2 years ago

When the Spyder hits your eye like a big pizza pie…..that’s amore…..
…in my worst Dean Martin voice.

10001010
10001010
2 years ago

I mean, that Imperial has those sweet, sweet fins, but I gotta vote Beetle today.

Drew
Drew
2 years ago
Reply to  10001010

It’s really gotta be one of those two. I chose the Imperial, but the Beetle is definitely the more practical project.

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