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He was referring to a steamed ham, a regional delicacy from Albany.
I’m going to stick up for ham here. Ham will be there for you in the best of times, and the worst of times. Holiday spiral hams, to wet slices of porcine-based loaf product. From the base of a deli-grade Italian sub, to an accessory for scrambled eggs. From Boar’s Head, to the plastic tubs from Aldi. Ham will be there.
Pastrami only wishes it had the versatility of ham.
Agreed. Unless and until we see an automobile bumper made from pastrami, plain ham shall retain the upper hand.
Here we can see The Kids in the Hall sketch called ‘Ham of Truth’:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2Ka2nkIi2I
(NSFW language)
I’m a fool.
“ Type is there so you can edit
Not pitching meat jokes”
Hmmm
“ …but, of course, it sounds more like David will ejaculate after being focused on a Jeep”
Someone was pitching meat jokes
This provides an entirely new meaning to the ad copy on the ejack post:
”If you’re tired of pumping, maybe consider an ejack”
The back and forth banter is the sign of a good team
Can I just say that this kinda article is one of the main reasons I am a member (after believing in the team and the fantastic articles you write!) a genuine BTS that made me have a good chuckle, thanks Torch (and team!)
Amen.
This is an aside, but I’ve always been frustrated that most copies of Al Bowlly’s Midnight, the Stars and You that you can find have the echo effect added for the movie, vs being the undistorted original. The guy had an amazing voice and was killed in the Blitz right on the cusp of major international stardom, he would have been the British Sinatra by the 1950s, had he survived the war.
And here lies the eternal question: did David make that joke on purpose? Or is he just blithely using a common contraction for electric and it just happens to be a hilarious unintentional double entendre?
Are y’all dissing ham that has been painstakingly smoked on the bone, then presliced to make it easier for you to get at that lovely ham bone, which you then place in a stockpot and simmer for hours until the last meaty bits fall off and you’re left with a mind-blowingly tasty base for a variety of soups (don’t forget to skim the fat!)?
Or were you just talking about that prepackaged, sticky deli-sliced ham?
pre-packaged sticky child’s ham. There are worthy hams!
Worthy hams! I like that.
If that’s your response to ham I think you’re eating the wrong ham (or not eating, not sure how observant). Ham is a stone cold cold cut as long as you’re not buying trash.
I am still buying various Boars Head hams – very tasty with hopefully a lowered chance of unwanted bacteria now that the company is on notice. Store brand hams do tend to suck.
I’m taking a shine to the top shot. Hey Jason, seen any monkeys lately?
Yeah, it took me a long time to figure out where that’s from. Well done.
Dammit, I now see it’s mentioned in the article… 🙂 The pic triggered something and I had to figure it out before I could read the article.
I didn’t read the article. I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member.
To each their own, as they know where their own priorities lie. I support two websites that I really like and this just happens to be one of them. It’s not at all a financial hardship thing other than being intrinsically frugal since birth, but kind of like you I want to choose only my 2 favorites, and everybody else can go e-jack themselves 🙂
It’s one of the reasons that movie is one of the all-time greats (no matter what Stephen King thinks) – it even manages to make the final moment both unexpected and perfect.
The movie has to be one of my favorites. But I am biased because I grew up 1/2 mile from the hotel that King stayed in, which provided the idea for the book. We had our high school prom there.
And it’s sad, but the whole Shining thing has brought ruin to what was once a very cool place.
Also liked the TV version, mainly because they used the correct actual hotel location to shoot it in. And the hotel was actually open only in the summer time.
I took my wife there before the place was ruined by the publicity, and she was totally freaked out by the place. Of course we went into the room with the famous bathroom scene.
The Stanley Hotel, Estes Park, Colorado
Stephen King pushed to film the original movie at the Stanley, but Kubrick hated location shoots, he preferred the ability to have total control of all aspects of the environment that you get with sets, so he used some excuse of the hotel not having enough electrical service to handle all the film equipment in order to drop the issue. Then King made sure to go there when he was put in charge of the TV adaptation
They did do a really good job of making the Overlook feel like a real place in the movie though, none of it looks like sets that were built fresh and new the previous week, there’s implied layers of history with renovations and redecorations on top of older renovations that really sells it as a place that’s been a functioning hotel for decades
Thanks. You probably know this already, but…King stayed at the Stanley for one night. 1974. They were closing it for the winter ( just like the movie), but he managed to get a room on the last night that it was open. Thus the story was born.
From my personal experience we were allowed to roam free in the hotel as teenagers in the mid 1970s. It was rumored to be haunted many decades before King ever showed up there.
There is a Stanley Steamer parked in the lobby. I have a photo of my sweet wife standing next to it. Wish I knew how to post the photo. The first time I took her there, it was closed for winter. While we were inside I had to take a leak. When I came back she was sort of freaked out. Said she was hearing voices.
Some were arguing. We also heard the phones ringing in the rooms at times, even though there was nobody there to run the switchboard.
To say the least she was freaked out.
Years later we went back again while on vacation.
I had to hold her hand the entire time. She claimed that someone was tapping her on the shoulder the entire time as I took her through out the entire place. I recall as we walked thru the place the temperature would vary a lot from one area to another.
Kubrick did a great job with the adaptation. And the sets used for it were so well done, as you mentioned.
Now I need to buy a DVD of the movie. One of the best ever…
I’m kinda bummed that I only just now read this, 3 days late, because I worked on the miniseries and I have a wee automotive anecdote from the experience that people here might appreciate, but at this late date, maybe only you, Col Lingus, will see.
At any rate, during the months we worked and stayed at the hotel, a few people on the crew did claim to have supernatural experiences. I myself didn’t really, but I did see something weird. One of the hotel’s outbuildings was called, I believe, the coachhouse, which used to originally house the Stanley Steamers that ferried guests up to the hotel, and later stabled horses. At the time I was there (February, March, and May of 1996) it was apparently used for storage… extra tables and chairs, some furnishings from the rooms we had refurnished for the miniseries shoot, stuff like that. I had an idle peek inside during a lunch break while we were there in May, shooting the early 1st episode scenes before winter sets in. And loosely covered with tarps, an inch of dust, and a few broken chairs from the dining room, were two old cars.
They obviously had been there for years and years, and I never found out whose they were or why they were being stored underneath a dusty pile of busted furniture. What was interesting was what the cars were, considering the show we were shooting.
One was a ’59 Cadillac that someone had ill-advisedly customized by shortening it, removing the entire back seat section and turning it into a 2 seater like a Thunderbird, which absolutely did not work for the Caddy’s design proportions. I think that may be why it ended up buried in that coachhouse: whoever performed that abortion died and nobody else wanted to be seen in it.
That would have been a cool enough barn find, but the weird coincidence was that one of our picture cars, the one driven by Melvin Van Peebles’ character Dick Halloran, was also a ’59 Caddy, a shiny red convertible one. A gag in the miniseries has young Danny shattering one of the distinctive taillight lenses with his Shining power, so our transportation team had secured a few aftermarket fakes so we could shoot several takes. I am pretty sure those guys never knew there were four more original lenses underneath a dusty tarp in a corner of the locked coachhouse forty yards away.
But the other car was the bigger surprise, and I swear it looked like it hadn’t moved in decades. I desperately wanted to show it to Stephen King, but even though he was present for most of the shoot, he’d just departed for Maine a day or two previously (he’d roadtripped out in his black Suburban and stayed in the Stanley to perform rewrites for much of the shoot, and also do his cameo as zombie bandleader Gage Creed).
The other car under the furniture, I swear to God, was a 1958 Plymouth Fury.
Thanks so much for the reply and info! Wow. We were there in May of 96 also, on vacation. We had no idea that the TV movie was scheduled for shooting there though.
And had no idea that King and the TV folks were staying there. Again, wow. I am surprised King was willing to stay there again. Interesting to say the least.
I remember and know the Coach House pretty well. And I have seen that Caddy that was destroyed as well. And maybe the 58 Plymouth, we did not look under that tarp though. From the early 1970s through about 2001, a lot of my high school, and other friends worked at the hotel as summer jobs. Very few made it through an entire season though.
A friend and I went into the Coach House in 2001 one morning for a couple of minutes to have a smoke. We did not stay long, as we heard some strange noises coming from the rear of it. As you said, it was stuffed full of stuff at the time. I wonder if that stuff remains there though now. Growing up in EP and all we had seen a lot of stuff happen that was sort of strange. Most of it was rationalized of course, but the fact that EP was a town once inhabited by various Native Americans has always made me wonder if the area was maybe cursed or affected by the events of those who were there before the white man came…a lot of unfortunate events have occurred in the Estes Park valley over the decades.
When we had our prom at the Stanley in 1975 the band that was playing took a break. As we were going outside to have a drink and a smoke, we heard someone playing the piano. Thinking it was a classmate, we went into the music room. The piano stopped as we were about to enter the room.And when we entered, there was nobody to be seen. Strange. Since the King book had not been published yet, the “King” effect had not yet become part of the equation though.
The two times I visited with my wife, she was saying she saw some apparitions while we were on the upper floors. I said that they were probably just the sun light playing tricks as it passed through the hotel’s windows. But even though she was sort of freaked out, she loved the place just the same.
You are probably aware of this as well, but there were rumors of some Mafia hits that had happened at the hotel many years before. Always wondered about that though. Lots of stories, but most are impossible to get the real facts about so many years later.
Since I grew up there years before the book or movies arrived, we did not actually think the place was haunted as such. Just the same, a lot of weird stuff happened there. For example, several unexplained fires in both the hotel, and the out buildings.
Not to complain, but the hotel was a lot more enjoyable then.
The attention, and commercialization of the place has sort of ruined the story and ambience of the hotel. Especially for the locals, and those of us who knew the place before all that occurred.
And Dick Halloran was always our favorite character as well. Scatman was the perfect choice for that role.
Thanks so much again for the reply. Please pass on any other thoughts or memories.
It is a beautifully made movie that transcends being pigeon holed as “just” another horror film, its a work of cinematic art.
If you believe Pat Sajak, and why wouldn’t you, he’s on TV, E is the MOST popular vowel.
Also I loved that waving kid on Modern Family. Oh crap, I hope that kid doesn’t hate that actor! I take it back!