Good morning! Today we have two cars that have a lot in common: price, color, style, conditition, but they’re not two cars you would think of as being comparable. When has that ever stopped us, though?
Yesterday I played a little bit dirty, just to see what it would take to get you all to vote for a K-car. As it turns out, a derelict Lincoln will do the trick, if it’s rough and overpriced enough. You not only preferred a grandma-spec Plymouth Reliant; you preferred it by more than three to one. Maybe I could get the dealership selling the Lincoln to change that banner from “I Buy Old Project Cars” to “Mission Accomplished.” (On second thought, maybe not.)


It goes without saying, I suppose, that I would take the Reliant here in a heartbeat. There are K variants I’d rather have than a gray four-door Reliant, but I could find a way to have fun with this. The question is, what to do with the other $997,000? Build a tree fort, I suppose.
Now then: Finding cars to feature here is more art than science. I have to reject a lot of ads, including many found by others, that would otherwise be great choices, because of bad photos, or not enough photos. Sometimes I skip something because there’s just not enough information about it, and every time I assume something about a car, I end up making a mistake – and boy do I hear about it.
But what really takes some time is finding the second car. Often I’ll find one thing I really want to write about, and then struggle to find it a mate. I found today’s Mustang a few days ago, but I had no idea what to put up against it, until the perfect car practically fell in my lap. They’re so closely matched, they could be mirror images of each other, except that they’re completely different sorts of cars. Let’s see which approach you prefer.
1988 Ford Mustang LX – $2,500
Engine/drivetrain: 2.3 liter overhead cam inline 4, four-speed automatic, RWD
Location: Antioch, IL
Odometer reading: 91,000 miles
Operational status: Runs and drives well
In the beginning, cars had no tops. This is largely because most wagons had no tops, and early automakers pretty much copied wagon designs. And it was good – until it rained. So some clever folks added a folding roof to keep the rain out. Later, even after cars gained permanent roofs, some buyers longed for the days when you could fold down the roof and let the sunshine in, so automakers sold convertible versions of hardtop cars. And it was good again – until a bunch of regulators proposed a bunch of new rules that would have killed convertibles, so automakers stopped making them. Then, in 1982, a guy named Lee thought, “You know what, those rules never came to pass. There’s no reason we can’t go back to making convertibles again.” So he did, and before long, so did everyone else. And, once again, it was good.
Ford wasted no time in bringing back a convertible Mustang after Chrysler broke the seal. Starting in 1983, the Mustang was available as a drop-top again, made from a notchback coupe by famed car-beheader ASC. This Mustang is from the second refresh of the third-generation Fox-body, which was only available with either a 2.3 liter inline four, or a 302 V8. This one has the four, which doesn’t have the power to back up the Mustang’s reputation, but it will run until the end of time. It’s backed by a four-speed automatic, which slows down progress even further. The seller says it runs fine, but suggests the car is a good candidate for an engine swap. Personally, I’d leave it alone, but I’m not as power-hungry as a lot of car folks.
Convertibles are great, when the weather is just right, and convertible owners tend to make the most of those days when the temperature is perfect and the sun is shining. Despite being in northern Illinois, it looks like this car has seen a lot of those days; its red upholstery is faded to a dusky pink. It’s in good condition otherwise, though. The top is in acceptable shape, and works, and the seller notes that the left rear quarter window won’t roll back up any more. Luckily, replacement window motors are cheap.
The body is clean and rust-free; this car must have been someone’s summer-only toy. It has newer Mustang GT wheels, which look good on it. It’s missing a piece of trim, but other than that, it looks nice.
1993 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme – $2,500
Engine/drivetrain: 3.1 liter overhead valve V6, four-speed automatic, FWD
Location: Omaha, NE
Odometer reading: 93,000 miles
Operational status: Runs and drives well
Replacing a beloved model, especially with a radically different car, is always a tricky business. Ford tried replacing the Fox-body Mustang with the Probe, of course, and got smacked down by the fans. GM’s fabled A-body platform, a fan favorite since 1964, lost its chassis designation to a front-wheel-drive car in 1982, becoming the G-body, and was then replaced altogether in 1988 by the FWD W-body – but not before going out with a bang, of course. To cushion the blow, GM made sure that the W-body had some cool special variants, including this car: the Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme convertible.
The W-body cars were originally only available as two-doors, probably because the final few years of G-body cars were also only two-doors. Part of the original design was a vertical door handle embedded in the B-pillar, a feature not shared with the later four-door variants. The convertible carries over the cool door handles, because it still has B-pillars, and a “basket-handle” roll bar. This probably keeps it a little bit less floppy than a typical unibody-based convertible. No other GM division got a convertible W-body, which means that there really was a special feel in this particular Oldsmobile. Apart from being a convertible, though, it’s a standard W-body, with the same 3.1 liter corporate V6 and overdrive automatic that most of them had. It runs and drives well, the seller says, and has no warning lights on the dash – a good sign.
You wouldn’t expect a convertible to be a base model, and this one isn’t – it’s got leather seats and all kinds of power stuff. It looks nice inside too, except for some gaudy aftermarket speakers in the rear, but you can probably get some less tacky grilles to hide them a little better. The top of the dash on the passenger’s side looks a little wonky, like it was taken apart and not reassembled right. It probably just needs to be snapped back into place.
It’s got a pretty good boop on the nose, but it looks like the hood still closes all right. It’s also missing a side-marker light, which you’d probably need to source from a junkyard. But it’s not rusty, and the top looks like it will last you a while yet.
So there you have it: two white convertibles with red interiors that approach the same place from different paths. Either one will give you plenty of fresh air on nice days, though. And with those, I leave you all for a week; my wife and I are headed to Tahiti for a bucket-list dream vacation. Fear not, however; I’m leaving you in the capable hands of Griffin Riley, who has a whole garden of crappy automotive delights in store for you. See you all next week!
(Image credits: sellers)
I could never choose USDM Ford products with form-fitting composite headlamps so pass on the Mustang. That is unless Ford has the export headlamps available: Mustang didn’t get one until the fifth generation which was the first Mustang to be built for export and RHD markets on the same assembly lines.
Additionally, Ford seems to have a fetish for the world’s shortest seat tracks. Really bitching for a very tall guy like me.
If I have to, I will choose Cutlass over Mustang.
Why can’t I buy a car today with the Cutlass’s interior color?
I loved those Cutlasses when they were new, but I don’t want to deal with sourcing a new hood for it and leaving the dent kind of ruins the whole look. Pretty sure I can build a new Fox body with aftermarket parts, so the slowest Mustang ever it is.
I’ll take either over the crap from yesterday
Ill take the 1967 Dodge Coronet that the Mustang ad hyperlink takes you to for some reason.
The Mustang just for ease of getting parts.
Gotta go Mustang. A V8 swap is a weekend project on one of these with proper planning and parts gathering, and then you’ve got something with higher resale value and fun factor.
A v8 swap and you still have a automatic pile of boredom
You can swap a manual into a fox body really easily. I’ve done it.
Mustang, although this one is not nice enough for a V8 Swap. I would probably just clean it up a bit and enjoy as is. it.
I’ve always had a thing for fox mustangs, so this is a no brainer. Pick a not-v8 swap and run with it. Rotary? K? 2j? turbo redblock? VQ? BP? Did the quad4 ever come in a rwd config?
I like these W-body Cutlasses a lot, and I intended to pick it. Until I saw the boop on the nose. Fixing that on a car worth this little, just isn’t worth it.
This Mustang is prime for an EV conversion.
The Old Olds?
Not so much.
This is a good exercise. I wouldn’t pay anything for either of these cars under any circumstance short of some sort of apocalypse, but given how things are going these days, that apocalypse could very well be upon us in pretty short order. So after due consideration, I’m going Cutlass. I don’t like the Mustang’s interior as much and I wouldn’t see any point in putting an 8 or something like that under its hood. The front of the Cutlass is pretty rough, but once the apocalypse hits, the cosmetics won’t matter in the least due to the inevitable bullet holes, shrapnel tears, etc.
With shame and regret, I chose the olds. The mustang with an automatic and a less than half size 2.3L four made it a hard no for me.
5.0 and/or manual would have been a very different outcome.
Even though the Mustang is a ‘limp pipe’ version, I voted for it. I had 89 5.0 lx convertible that I enjoy for many miles/yrs.
This mustang conv. having the GT wheels reminds me of my stepmom’s 80 something v6 (a dog) mustang convertible w/ all the accessories. She would do the ‘creep’ at stop lights with people who would think she was gonna race them. Light would turn green, other car would take off like bat out of hell and she would pull away like nothing going on.
It would take a lot for me to pick a fox body mustang over ANYTHING. I’d take yesterday’s K car over this. Give me the Cutlass (which I don’t like much either, but it’s got to be better than the mustang).
Happy holidays, Mark and wife!
Oh, and Mustang, for no special reason.
I’m no fan of Fox body Mustangs, but that’s the one I’d take. It’s a blank canvas.
There’s no aftermarket for the Cutlass. If you can’t find parts to bring it back to stock, you have to make your own. And parts are getting scarce because this isn’t a very compelling car.
I’ve never loved the fox body, but this is a key point that has me leaning toward the lesser evil. I had one of these Cutlass convertibles 20 years ago and some of the convertible / rollbar specific parts were already NLA even then.
You know, I voted for the Cutlass because it’s a car that I just like better but now that you mention the parts problems – yeah. That’s a really good point.
I’m in for the style of the Mustang. The convertible should take some of the expectation off that it’s a performer. It’s a nostalgic cruiser at a decent price.
Yar, matey! I’ll drive me Cutlass to the bottom o’ Davey Jones Locker!
I think I’d rather spend some extra for a turbo 2.3 swap or V8 than fixing the Cutlass’ front end. So Mustang wins
I’m a fan of the Cutlass convertibles in general, but the front end damage on this example turned me off. The Mustang looks to be a little easier to bring up to snuff.
My ex had a 93 notchback with the 4 cylinder (and auto…ugh). That said it wasn’t terrible. It wasn’t fast, it wasn’t “fun” but it did just work. It was easy to work on. Got great fuel economy. It was reasonably comfortable for road trips (hey we were in college), including several drives from Ames, Iowa to Orlando in it. Usually I’d go GM, but that Cutlass is not nearly as cool, despite the 2.3l, as the Mustang. I wouldn’t even engine swap it…probably.
Go Cyclones!
I’m gonna go with the Mustang. Seems to be in better overall condition and it will be easier/cheaper for parts and service
Plus with the Mustang, you have lots of options if you want more power or want a manual.
Went ‘Stang on this one. As stated, deep aftermarket and parts support.
I had a W-body in college and was less than impressed by the experience. Something or other was always broken and maintenance can be a hassle on these.