Good morning! If you’re a regular reader, you might recall that a few weeks back, we looked at a pair of Cadillacs several decades apart, mainly because I found a really cool old Fleetwood for sale and couldn’t find anything else worthy of it. Well, today I’ve found an equally cool old Lincoln, so we’re going to give FoMoCo’s luxury division the same treatment.
But before we get to those, let’s look at yesterday’s Chicago-style beaters. (Chicago-style could be either the thick kind with the sauce on top, or the really thin and crispy kind cut into squares, by the way.) This was a case of damage you can see versus damage that might be hidden, and I honestly didn’t know which way it was going to go. In the end, you gave the win to the Prelude, which has its share of issues but seems more open and honest about them than the Lexus.
I have to agree. I’ve bought plenty of cheap old cars in my day, and I’ve consistently had better luck with private sellers and cars that look a little janky than with overly-polished turds from a dealership. I think that Prelude would make a fine beater for a while.
Ford’s luxury division, Lincoln, hasn’t been at it as long as Cadillac has. Lincoln opened its doors in 1917 and was purchased by Ford in 1922. The division has built a lot of legendary machines, often with names like Continental and Zephyr, but it has also peddled a lot of badge-engineered Fords, with names like … Continental. And Zephyr. Today, we’re going to look at one of Lincoln’s last great big luxury sedans, and a more modern example that’s got the comfort and features but is maybe a little lacking in panache.
1970 Lincoln Continental – $2,900
Engine/drivetrain: 460 cubic inch overhead valve V8, three-speed automatic, RWD
Location: Lakemoor, IL
Odometer reading: 68,000 miles
Operational status: Runs and drives, but transmission leaks
“Continental,” for the longest time, was a near-mythical nameplate for Lincoln. Originally appearing on a V12-powered, hand-made car in 1939, then becoming a whole separate division for a while in the 1950s, the Lincoln Continental was something special. Later Continentals were mass-produced instead of being hand-made, but with their massive slab-sided styling and rear “suicide doors,” you couldn’t say they weren’t special. But to be honest, before I spotted this car for sale, I couldn’t have told you what a 1970 Continental looked like; the magic sort of fizzled after the suicide doors left. This car kinda looks like an overgrown Mercury.
It’s still special under the hood, however. In 1970, you couldn’t get Ford’s massive 460 cubic inch V8 in anything other than a Lincoln. With 365 horsepower and enough torque to pull a freight train, this big V8 shoves the big boxy Continental down the road with relentless authority, with the aid of Ford’s simple and tough C6 automatic transmission. This car runs well and is drivable, but it has a serious-sounding leak in the transmission, so that will need some attention. C6s are dirt-common, so repair or even replacement if necessary should be straightforward.
Inside, it’s all leather and carpet and power accessories, just as it should be. I don’t imagine the woodgrain on the dash is real; it’s an American car from the ’70s, after all, but that’s part of the charm. It’s in good shape, with a little bit of wear and cracking on the leather, but otherwise it looks good. And surprisingly, the seller says it has never been smoked in, which as anyone who has owned cars of this age knows is rare.
It doesn’t have the effortless cool of the suicide-door Continentals, or even the contemporary fuselage-bodied Chryslers, but it does look pretty impressive. The paint is nice and shiny, the vinyl top is in good condition, and I don’t see any signs of rust. It has been in the same family for two decades, and it looks like they took good care of it. And by the way, it comes with the service records from their ownership, as well as a Haynes manual – always a welcome sign.
2010 Lincoln MKZ – $4,800
Engine/drivetrain: 3.5-liter dual overhead cam V6, six-speed automatic, FWD
Location: Rutherford, NJ
Odometer reading: 132,000 miles
Operational status: Runs and drives great
After the 1970s, the Continental got less and less special. First on the Fox platform, then switching to front-wheel-drive in 1988 on the Taurus platform, the Continental became the entry-level Lincoln during the 1980s instead of the flagship, until 2006 when Lincoln decided to dredge up another name from its past and slap it on a Ford – the Zephyr. The Zephyr name had already been sullied, of course, for Mercury’s version of the Ford Fairmont in the late ’70s, so there was precedent. And maybe it was the memory of that Zephyr, rather than the 1936 model it was meant to invoke, that caused Lincoln to drop the name in 2007, and rename it the MKZ.
The MKZ is based on the same platform as the Ford Fusion and the Mazda 6, with a transverse 3.5 liter Duratec V6 powering the front wheels through a six-speed automatic. This one runs and drives great, the seller says, and it has a new battery and just had the brakes done.
Lincoln did a nice job of differentiating this car from the Fusion on the inside, with lots of leather and wood (real wood this time), and a clean, classy look. It looks like it’s in good shape inside, and if it has been as well maintained as the seller claims, I imagine everything still works. The passenger seat looks like it could use some cleaning, though; I think someone spilled something over there.
Outside, it’s in decent condition, but damn, does it look like a Fusion from this angle. The Lincoln-specific front and rear fascias help, but if you see one in side profile, it doesn’t look like much. It does have a little wrinkle in the rocker panel just below the passenger’s door; not sure what happened there. And it might be a trick of the light, but the front bumper doesn’t quite seem to match.
It’s easy, and kind of a cheap shot, to look at these two cars side-by-side and say, “Look how the mighty have fallen,” but it’s more accurate to say, “look how the mighty have adapted and survived.” The ’70 Continental is a damn nice car, but it’s very much of its time, back when cars could spread out and take up more space than they needed to, and sail down highways while giving the middle finger to efficiency. The MKZ is old now as well, but it’s from a time that might come to be seen as the peak for ICE-powered cars. It’s powerful, reasonably efficient, and has all the niceties you could want without a bunch of tech for tech’s sake like today’s cars. So they’re both throwbacks – the question is, do you want one from 54 years ago, or 14?
(Image credits: sellers)
The mid 2000s Lincoln’s are just not great. It’s just a ford with silver plastic and fake wood. They don’t even look that much different than the fords they are based on. 70s boat all the way cuz it has some character. Plus the transmission can probably be replaced in a quarter of the time it would take on the newer one.
I have 4(soon 5) other vehicles, so the 70 would be way more interesting for me. I just have no idea where I would put it.
The Lincoln is the easy choice here, even though it will require a wide turn and full right rudder to get it into my driveway.
I have a parking space in a parking garage, that requires quite a sharp turn to get in, even my Polo struggles. I’m pretty sure I’d have to swing right onto the other side of the road to get the 70’s Lincon in, and then it would probably overflow my parking space. Oh, and filling it up for a 50 mile jaunt would bankrupt me.
Still though, why not own a car that’s bigger than some people’s houses? All I’d need to do is find an even bigger boat to bring it across the Atlantic.
Use the lincoln as a house. The trunk would make a good bedroom
With the back seat as a guest room.
Old Lincoln for sure, though i do wish it were a 4 door hardtop(aka Pillarless windows) with the rear doors opening the wrong way. still that thing is clean, and the price is worth the drive for me, though I am certain it will be gone before I finish typing this. the MKZ is not a terrible choice, though I do wonder about the left left in the water pump. since it is what it is, that pump may be milk shaking the oil already or just seeping out and not noticed too much, regardless the cost to replace since it includes a timing chain set would make me shy away from it.
Continental, please. A leaking C6 can be a DIY even if you possess rudimentary mechanical skills.
Wouldn’t try to relive my HS memories of a college girl 5 years my senior in a LBD ensconced in a plush Continental—but I’d damn sure drive this one in a pleasant nostalgic haze
Wow that Continental! Stopped reading after the first MK whatever pic. And black is the only proper color
I’d also accept a deep metallic forrest green.
Burgundy/merlot interior is also the way to go.
A car from back when “Lincoln Continental” meant something to the upper crust and those aspiring to be upper crust.
Or a rebadged Ford Fusion from when Lincoln is largely forgotten as a brand.
Continental, no question. The savings over the MKZ and fix the transmission and you have a winner as both a DD and a fun weekend cruiser- at least for the mileage I would put on it (not much).
I’d drive that Continental for a while, then make an EV out of it.
One of my eventual retirement ideas unlikely to ever come to fruition is to take an old 60s-70s land yacht and replace the single-digit-mileage V8 with a hybrid drivetrain. This Conti would be an excellent choice.
The Continental is the one you take for a drive to Woodward Ave just chilling, absorbing the cracks and bumps, people will respect you. The MKZ is the one that will take you to The Lodge and you will fear for your life fighting with the Impalas and Chargers with no insurance.
If I needed a daily, the MKZ would be a great choice. I had a 2010 Fusion Sport AWD and that 3.5 is surprisingly powerful as long as it doesn’t self destruct via water pump. Mine had 180k when I cut her loose, and never had an issue. I don’t need a daily, so that Continental is very attractive. I can’t imagine that the trans leak would be too hard to sort out one way or another, and once you do, you’d have a hell of a weekend cruiser that looks pretty badass. Honestly would be really tempted to put duals with small chrome tips on it
I’m the friendly stranger in the black sedan.
I’d step inside that car.
I own and daily a 2008 MKZ and it’s honestly the best daily car I’ve owned. I’ve had it for a while, still has low miles (~160,000) and is decently loaded. It’s small enough to be easy to park in town, decent mpgs, it’s surprisingly powerful-ish, and has the best invention in cars, ever….AC seats. Much needed in the summer with a black car and black leather.
Every time I think about replacing it I remember how nice it is to not have payments, haha
I wouldn’t choose the MKZ even if it was the only choice on the ballot. Continental Large Car, please.
Crispy squares is St. Louis Style. Chicago can keep the soupizza.
Continental, of course.
I had a ’69 Continental with that powertrain. It was dead nuts reliable and made cruising a breeze.
It got 9mpg and only drank super unleaded, but the AC was epic.
Continental for me!
Apples to accountancy booklets.
One is a perfectly fine daily driver, the other a piece of Americana for the weekend. Really nothing to compare whatsoever.
I’d need a good comfortable DD these days, so MKZ it is. But the Conti for the weekends is a solid choice.
Yeah this is one of the few times with you have to go with both. The Zed for daily duties and the Conti for Fri night and the weekend.
The super thin crispy kind of pizza cut into squares is not Chicago style. I believe it is St. Louis style. My favorite type of pizza, that’s what the good old pizza places around here make. But as for the cars, it’s the Continental. Tranny leak on something that old can’t be that hard to fix, and it be a fun old cruiser. The MKZ is neat, I always liked that Fusion platform, but Ford brilliantly put the water pump inside that otherwise excellent 3.5 V6 so when the water pump inevitably eventually leaks it goes straight into the oil and usually ruins the whole engine before people catch it.
All I know is that my absolute favorite pizza place in the entire Chicagoland area, Gario’s Pizza Villa in Montgomery, does the crispy squares, and I know several other places in the area that do it too. St. Louis can claim it if they want to, but I’ll always associate it with Chicago.
I think what matters most is we can all agree it’s excellent pizza!
It’s absolutely from Chicago. The foodies call it “tavern style” now, but when I was a kid, it was just called “pizza” and was everywhere.
The more famous type was only available at a few places, which eventually franchised across the country in the 90s, which is what made everyone think of that alone as Chicago style.
It’s only St. Louis style if it uses provel cheese. Chicago “tavern style” pizza looks basically the same, but uses mozzarella.
Pizza is delicious, so all arguments as to what style is the best are stupid. The question should only be: What style are you in the mood for today?
Dude, come on…
I’ll take the Continental, way more interesting. That and I wouldn’t touch anything on that Fusion platform with a 10 foot pole. My fiancee had an 09 Fusion that fell apart and broke with such frequency that it made my ex’s 2005 Passat look reliable.
The 2010 MKZ is the better choice. The 1970 Continental is the correct choice.
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1970 Continental? Black over red interior? Lakemoor, Illinois?
That’s a mob car. There is no way somebody who crossed the Outfit hasn’t ever been tied up and thrown in that trunk.
Mobsters didn’t care for Lincolns or Fords.
Just ask Sinatra.
Maybe back east, but this is the CHICAGO Outfit
But at least they didn’t smoke in it.
Lets not speculate what happened to any mook foolish enough to smoke in that car…
“Nice car. Even the trunk had carpeting.” Spots, Down Periscope
I love that movie! “I need somebody with a tattoo on his dick! Now, have I got the right man for the job?”
The MKZ is fine but the soul of that Continental takes it by about as long as it is. I mean look at the hood and truck decks! You could land a 747 on each one!!!
There is absolutely nothing wrong with that MKZ, which would be a perfectly acceptable (and kind of handsome) commuter car.
But we’ll take the Conti, so that we look like every NBC Mystery Movie baddie.
Edited for grammar.
The old Lincoln sure is cool, but I just couldn’t see myself driving it regularly. And it probably gets 5 mpg downhill. The MKZ I could and would drive daily.
My thought as well. The bad guys are tailing Columbo in that Continental.
I watched all the old episodes and what sticks with me is how the baddie’s luxury car sounds…”rumble rumble rumble sqeeeek slam”. Ahh…quality!