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What A Pile The Cadillac Cimarron Was: Cold Start

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The Cadillac Cimarron is a car that I have mostly contempt for. I feel pretty comfortable in this, because these things were, charitably, heaps. Well, that’s not really accurate: they were overpriced heaps. These slightly overdressed Chevy Cavaliers sold for the equivalent of about $41,000 today, and I can tell you, they were not worth it. What bothers me about this is I think they were part of why the concept of a luxury compact car never really caught on.

I feel qualified to throw shade at the Cimarron in part because I had a college girlfriend who had a 1982 Chevy Cavalier, which was based on the same J-body platform, had the same 85 horsepower, 1.8-liter drivetrain, the same three-speed slushbox, most of the same body panels, and the same all-encompassing blandness that made any time with that car only slightly more exciting than a book of industrial carpet samples.

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That car drove like a block of surplus cheese shoved across a sidewalk, but maybe with a little less, um, dynamism.

The Cimarron was, of course, a Cadillac and not some plebeian Chevy, but aside from badging, all that really meant was you could get the inside slathered in leather.

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What was especially galling about the Cimmaron was how Cadillac chose to market it, and what cars it chose to compare it to. Look at this:

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Look at the cars it’s up against there: Audi 5000, BMW 320i, Volvo GLE, and the Saab 900S, all of which were vastly better choices than this Cavalier that shoplifted some jewelry. Also note that its referred to as “Cimarron by Cadillac” and dealers were told not to call it “Cadillac Cimarron” because of, um, I guess reasons? Who the hell knows what goes through the brilliant yet often addled mind of GM?

I’m not really sure why Cadillac wanted that comparo chart up there, because it only shows that the Cimarron got better gas mileage and had, um, leather.

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There’s some of that leather! Of course, it’s wrapped around an interior that was pretty much the exact same as the cheap-ass Cavalier, but at least you could get these with a stick shift, though I’m not sure I ever saw one without the three-speed auto. Just seeing that steering wheel is giving me some really boring flashbacks.

Sure, these things were crap, but you know what the worst crime really is? The Cimarron was boring, so deeply, unrelentingly, clinically dull. It had all the pizzaz of a manilla folder, but without the sexiness.

These things are why we don’t seem to understand the potential of premium small cars. Well, maybe the Aston-Martin Cygnet was a factor, too, but that thing was way cooler.

What a pile.

 

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GreatFallsGreen
GreatFallsGreen
9 months ago

Not that it would have made a dramatic difference, but a point I heard a while ago was that it might have helped if they used a Skyhawk/Firenza dash rather than the Cavalier (standard)/Sunbird dash. Sure it’s all GM plastics and still a Cavalier at its core, but the Buick/Olds dash had a lower cowl and looked a bit airer, more like what you saw in an import vs. the big hooded dash of the cheapest J-bodies.

Hotdoughnutsnow
Hotdoughnutsnow
9 months ago

I’m surprised by how small the logo is on the steering wheel.

Andy Individual
Andy Individual
9 months ago

It would be funny to wear that around your neck in your next hip hop video.

Heck, Cimarron would be a good name for a blither artist too. It would fit right in with Drip or Bouncy.

Red865
Red865
9 months ago

Cimarron sounds more like a ‘dancer’ name 🙂

Joe The Drummer
Joe The Drummer
9 months ago
Reply to  Red865

I thought Cimmaron was Bouncy’s girl.

Nlpnt
Nlpnt
9 months ago

There are two problems here; the J-car program was supposed to be entirely “premium”, with the Cavalier aimed at Honda Accord buyers while the Chevette was the car for people who just wanted cheap wheels and the Citation for the traditional domestic-compact buyer.
But then they let GM’s accountants (who were notorious for thinking of extra features as “lost profits” coming from an assumption of entitlement to the sale in the first place) run rampant on it, and they costed out everything, everything, that could make a car feel “nice”. Even the Chevy was a dud at launch, it had to get a crash program to deliver a stripped-out base model (the Cavalier Cadet) late in the ’82 model year and improve the engine with 200cc more and single point EFI for ’83 along with across-the-board price cuts to get the value proposition where it should’ve been from day one.

On top of that, the Cimarron was last-minute (which is why in some ways it’s more Chevylike than the Buick Skyhawk and Olds Firenza which were part of the original plan). There was some friction between GM corporate management, who knew better for once and wanted the program delayed to at least 1984 to give time to build in some better differentiation and make the 2.8 V6 standard, and Cadillac Division bosses who wanted to be in the upscale-compact market RIGHT NOW DAMMIT no matter how minimally-acceptable the product would be at first.

Marty Densch
Marty Densch
9 months ago
Reply to  Nlpnt

I think the other reason it was more Chevy-like was because Chevy styling — especially in the grilles — purposely resembled Cadillac’s more than the other brands did. The Cavalier would have been the easiest to modify to look like a Cadillac.

Nlpnt
Nlpnt
9 months ago
Reply to  Marty Densch

Yes, the main point of difference at launch was the Cimarron’s four-headlight nose with eggcrate grille which Chevy copied for the Cavalier’s 1984 facelift.

Along with Martin, Dutch Gunderson, Lana and Sally Decker
Along with Martin, Dutch Gunderson, Lana and Sally Decker
9 months ago

What was funny for me about the J-cars what that in high school, between a few different friends and another friend’s mom, I got seat time in a Cavalier, Sunbird, Skyhawk, Firenza, and Cimarron, often almost back-to-back-to-back. To paraphrase the “Pam from The Office” meme, they were all the same car.

Collegiate Autodidact
Collegiate Autodidact
9 months ago

“Aluminum alloy wheels …with computer-matched radially ground tires”
“Computer-matched”?? Like an online dating app for tires? Tinder for Tires? Or perhaps Grindr for Tires? Since the tires are radially ground?

Last edited 9 months ago by Collegiate Autodidact
Citrus
Citrus
9 months ago

Rubbr

(Oh God that probably is an app but I’m not checking.)

Last edited 9 months ago by Citrus
Trust Doesn't Rust
Trust Doesn't Rust
9 months ago

In all honesty, was there anything compelling about the Cimarron? Picking out the bad things is easy. I want to know if there was anything genuinely good about the car.

Rad Barchetta
Rad Barchetta
9 months ago

The tach was standard and the radio delete made it a little cheaper.

Greensoul
Greensoul
9 months ago

The few I’ve seen in junkyards over the years had little wear on the leather seats. That made these cars worth twice the price of a Chevy, right?

Joe The Drummer
Joe The Drummer
9 months ago

Yes.

It was compellingly expensive for a goddamn Chevrolet Cavalier in a nice suit.

Mark Tucker
Mark Tucker
9 months ago

As probably one of very few people here to have had extensive real-world seat time in a Cimarron – and almost certainly the only one to have ever spun one out on the Interstate at 60 MPH – I feel honor-bound to disagree with most of what my esteemed colleague says here.

When I was in high school, in about 1989, my mom was leasing an Audi 5000. She had a long commute, and the Audi was gaining miles too quickly; she would have had to pay a mileage penalty after the lease was up. So to save miles on it, my dad went shopping for a cheap but comfortable car to save some miles on the Audi. He came home with a butter-yellow 1984 Cadillac Cimarron, with a 2.0 liter four and an automatic, with about 60,000 miles on it, for $2,600.

My brother and I both tried our best to kill that car, unintentionally. He went for a joyride on the night he got his driver’s license and ran it into a hedge on a country road. He mangled the left front fender, flattened a tire, and tore the front spoiler clean off, a long with one fog light.

Dad fixed the damage himself, with junkyard parts, and then six months later, I was driving the Cimarron to college, hit an icy patch on the on-ramp from I-88 to I-39, and spun it around two and a half times and went backwards into a snowbank. Somewhere during the spin, I clipped off a reflector post with – of course – the freshly-replaced left front fender. Dad left the dent this time. I looked around to see if I could find the reflector, but it was lost in the snow.

Despite all this, that little Cimarron kept chugging along, through two teenage boys, a divorce, and about eighty thousand miles of neglect. My dad sold it when he got a promotion and bought himself yet another used Audi. It ran flawlessly, hardly had any rust, and he got $1,000 for it.

You say it was boring and terrible. I call it noble.

Last edited 9 months ago by Mark Tucker
That Guy with the Sunbird
That Guy with the Sunbird
9 months ago
Reply to  Mark Tucker

A J-Body, like most GM cars of the vintage, will run badly longer than most cars will run at all.

The Artist Formerly Known as the Uncouth Sloth
The Artist Formerly Known as the Uncouth Sloth
9 months ago
Reply to  Mark Tucker

On Wisconsin? Or are we talking Beloit College or god forbid, Rockford?

Mark Tucker
Mark Tucker
9 months ago

Outside Rockford, going from Aurora, IL to UW-Superior. I was barely an hour into a seven-hour drive.

Jack Beckman
Jack Beckman
9 months ago
Reply to  Mark Tucker

The perception of value changes when paying $2600 for a car rather than the nearly $20k the car was new.

Andy Individual
Andy Individual
9 months ago
Reply to  Mark Tucker

Back when you could count on Audis to run. Even if you didn’t want them to. 😉

Anders
Anders
9 months ago

Great that front wheel drive was standard and not extra cost. Phew, what a relief.

Last edited 9 months ago by Anders
StillNotATony
StillNotATony
9 months ago
Reply to  Anders

And NOT AVAILABLE on the BMW or Volvo!

MaximillianMeen
MaximillianMeen
9 months ago
Reply to  StillNotATony

At least Volvo, and to a lesser extent BMW, have finally come around to the vast superiority that is FWD. (/s)

Shop-Teacher
Shop-Teacher
9 months ago

While the Cimmaron was indeed a terrible Cadillac, in the late 90’s/early 2000’s they were they absolute finest $500 beaters you could find. I knew two people who had them. Each paid 5 c-notes, and got years of comfortable trouble free service out of them.

Christopher Warren
Christopher Warren
9 months ago

Interesting, no mention of the engine displacement or horsepower in the brochure/ads? Torch used in the article. Yes, yes it would have been embarrassing to mention it at all for the introductory model years.

Optional White-Striped Steel Belted ‘Radially Ground’ Tires, wtf?

As usual GM SOP by the last model year, it had become a decent representation of what it originally aspired to be.

Highland Green Miata
Highland Green Miata
9 months ago

On the other hand you could get it in a manual. Try that on nearly anything with 4 doors these days. The engine was true crap though. My dad had the Buick version with the 85mph speedometer, which was an aspirational figure.

Hot Stuff
Hot Stuff
9 months ago

The US national speed limit was 55-mph when the J-cars debuted, so not being able to do 85 mph wasn’t really a problem.

4jim
4jim
9 months ago

my college roommate back in the late 1980s had one and my 78 vw rabbit was superior in every way.

Camp Fire
Camp Fire
9 months ago

I owned that series of Cavalier for about a decade. No noteworthy issues during that time, so it counts as a reliable platform in my book.

I’ve heard it said that the Cimarron is the best version of the Cavalier. From that angle, I’d probably be quite happy with one, as long as it had the 5-speed.

Edit to add – Mine was an ’85 with fuel injection and a 5-speed, neither of which were available in ’82.

Last edited 9 months ago by Camp Fire
Camp Fire
Camp Fire
9 months ago

“only slightly more exciting than a book of industrial carpet samples.”

“That car drove like a block of surplus cheese shoved across a sidewalk, but maybe with a little less, um, dynamism.”

Pure gold here, Torch. Pure gold.

😀

Lew Schiller
Lew Schiller
9 months ago
Reply to  Camp Fire

If that’s gold what’s this?
“…vastly better choices than this Cavalier that shoplifted some jewelry”

MEK
MEK
9 months ago
Reply to  Camp Fire

It had all the pizzaz of a manilla folder, but without the sexiness.

This is Fort Knox.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
9 months ago

You know what would have fixed it?

A giant light up badge on the grill! Only with one of those will EVERYBODY knows you are their better. Especially those contemptible poors in their (ugh!) Cavaliers.

Get better credit ya losers!

V10omous
V10omous
9 months ago

I’m trying to imagine the cheap ass who will buy a Cadillac but specify that they want the radio deleted for credit.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
9 months ago
Reply to  V10omous

That would be the cheap bastard who prefers to put their money into an aftermarket system that actually sounded tolerable vs whatever grossly overpriced scratchy, paper coned flea market reject GM was hawking as “premium sound”.

V10omous
V10omous
9 months ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

Somehow I’m not visualizing Cadillac’s geriatric owner base lining up at the car audio shop to get their Rockford Fosgates installed, but maybe the 80s were different.

The Artist Formerly Known as the Uncouth Sloth
The Artist Formerly Known as the Uncouth Sloth
9 months ago
Reply to  V10omous

yeah, no. Alpines or Pioneers. Or in my case, a Sparkomatic. I was a poor bastard

Steve P
Steve P
9 months ago

Who else was around in those days? Kraco? Realistic?

Urban Runabout
Urban Runabout
9 months ago
Reply to  Steve P

Kenwood or Sony.
You’d have ordered it through the Crutchfield catalog – with a model-specific wiring harness.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
9 months ago
Reply to  Steve P

To my rough recollection:

Low end: Sparkomatic, Pyle, Pyramid, Kraco, Realistic, Kicker, Jensen, Optimus, Sanyo, Sherwood, store house brands and flea market no-names

Mid range: Pioneer, Sony, Blaupunkt, Kenwood, JBL, Proton, Acoustic Research, Infinity, Rockford Fosgate, Klipsch, Fischer, JVC, MB Quart, MTX, Polk Audio,

High end: Alpine, Eclipse, NAD, JL, Denon, Yamaha, Boston Acoustics, Harmon Kardon, Morel, Orion, Zapco

Very high end: MacIntosh, Marantiz, Nakamichi

(Of course this ranking is based on my opinion. You may think differently and that’s OK)

A more complete list is here:

https://www.diymobileaudio.com/threads/old-school-car-audio-manufacture-list.160736/

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
9 months ago
Reply to  V10omous

I figure SOMETHING needs to fill that hole in the dash. Otherwise the only sounds you’ve got are the sounds that car makes.

OTOH if the buyers were geriatric maybe the solution was just to turn off their hearing aids in which case the stereo made no difference.

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
9 months ago

As with many GM products, the Cimarron got better right before it was axed. The V6 became standard, the price went down relative to the other Js, and of course GM stealthily fixed bugs without acknowledging that those bugs existed in the first place.
Not as dramatic of an improvement as the Fiero, or the Century/Ciera that lasted until ’96- but way better than the first years.

That Guy with the Sunbird
That Guy with the Sunbird
9 months ago

This. The later Cimarrons with the 2.8 V6 and digital dash were fine to me but I’m a J-Body aficionado with a 1990 Pontiac Sunbird in my garage, so my opinion is skewed.

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
9 months ago

It didn’t even have a a Cadillac style name. I would suggest El Bore-ado.

That comparison chart is like the little advisory on packs of store brand toilet paper. You know, the ones where the tell you: Compare to Charmin Ultrasoft. They’re not actually saying it’s as good, just sort of suggesting it. With the Cimarron, like most bargain bog roll, you’ll have poo on your hand.

As to that leather covered interior, every cud chewing cow in the world is covered in leather.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
9 months ago
Reply to  Canopysaurus

“like most bargain bog roll, you’ll have poo on your hand.”

Sounds like someone had a bad morning…

Wagen Volk
Wagen Volk
9 months ago
Reply to  Canopysaurus

I only scroll through comments until I find the old dudes’ comment. Never disappointed.

DialMforMiata
DialMforMiata
9 months ago

Even on their own chart, they have to admit that the standard 4-speed the Cimarron came with didn’t meet the standard 5-speed of the BMW, Audi and Saab. As Torch pointed out, though, the take rate on the manual had to be in the single percentages. You saw a bunch of these in SWFL in the 80s, probably as “condo cars” for snowbirds who kept the Big Caddy back home.

Mr. Frick
Mr. Frick
9 months ago

Had the same Cavalier as a company car. It was embarrassing to drive up to a customers business in that heap and forget about taking someone out for lunch. Raised so much hell they finally replaced it with an Aries. Somehow, it was better but not by much.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
9 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Frick

“It was embarrassing to drive up to a customers business in that heap and forget about taking someone out for lunch.”

Obviously you needed to up your charm game.

Aaron
Aaron
9 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Frick

Turn it into a selling point. “I have this cheap company car and we’re passing the savings onto you!”

The Artist Formerly Known as the Uncouth Sloth
The Artist Formerly Known as the Uncouth Sloth
9 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Frick

Cavalier v Aries. And death wasn’t a third option? Oh,dear.

Curtis Loew
Curtis Loew
9 months ago

I disagree. The Cimmaron/Cavalier of that era was simple mostly reliable car. I liked them then and now. Yeah it was funny they stuck a Cadillac badge on a Cavalier, but GM did that in the past with Pontiac, Buick and Olds and nobody cared. If you found a Cimmaron now in good shape it could be a low cost daily driver. Cheap parts and easy to repair. The Audi, Volvo, BMW and Saab of that era that the CImmaron was compared to, not so much. They are expensive to keep running if you can even get parts.

Flyingstitch
Flyingstitch
9 months ago

My Dad had an ’82 Cavalier. As a Chevy, in that era, it was…fine. Even a revelation in some ways, with interior fit and finish that put the old ’79 Nova to shame.

It was never meant to be a Caddy, but if GM had to go there, couldn’t they at least have created a distinctive dash and some other upscale bits to make it feel better inside? The cheapness is the breathtaking thing.

Data
Data
9 months ago
Reply to  Flyingstitch

Hard agree. The leather probably came from cow’s with mad cow disease. Now if this had been sold in communist bloc countries, it would have felt like true luxury.

Geoff Buchholz
Geoff Buchholz
9 months ago

That first year looks like the cynical rush job it was, and comparing it to the Audi 5000 and the 3er was straight-up hubris. The later model years were a bit more successful at being more than just a Cavalier Brougham (V6 power! New nose!), but by then everyone had moved on.

StillNotATony
StillNotATony
9 months ago

Standard leather wrapped steering wheel that blocks part of the standard tachometer! Standard!

Angrycat Meowmeow
Angrycat Meowmeow
9 months ago

I don’t think I’ll ever forgive GM for doing what they did to Cadillac. Letting the bean counters run the operation didn’t work out for GM, and it’s not working out for Boeing either.

Protodite
Protodite
9 months ago

It was like the proto-MBA class. The sheer ability to milk every single possible dollar out of something while completely missing the point of the brand and destroying it in the process

UnseenCat
UnseenCat
9 months ago
Reply to  Protodite

Oh, there were MBA’s then. Behavior like that was the harbinger of things to come. As MBAs moved and proliferated from management to the corporate boardroom to the prime shareholder majority, it just got worse with every step.

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