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What Combination Of Letters Just Doesn’t Work As A Performance Badge?

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When it comes to badging cars, certain letters are elevated above others. There’s a whole hierarchy going on—GLX and GLi outranking the humble GL, or R transcending a mere S or GT. These letters have become ingrained in the automotive consciousness. Even if you’ve never seen a given car before, you can guess at its relative value by the letters on the back.

Thanks to the last century of marketing and bluster, we all know which characters mean fast, cool, and expensive. They’ve changed and shifted over time; for example, the lowercase ‘i’ became less important as fuel injection became the norm. But what I find most interesting is the letters we don’t use.

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I wanted to share with you the worst performance badges I could possibly imagine. I’ll also examine how simple letter combinations get elevated to legendary status in the first place, and how automakers leverage this to sell more cars.

Type Q
This doesn’t work for a sports car, but WHY?

Doing it Wrong

Coming up with bad performance badges is actually quite easy. You can start by removing all the popular ones currently in service on fancy sports models. Forget Type R, Type S, and anything GT—they all sound rad. You have to look to the other letters—the ones that never seem to grace the back of a desirable car.

P Spec

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Grab a letter—a weird one—and go nuts. Type Q sounds silly. P-Spec sounds positively dire. Imagine putting down cash for an L-Sport, or an H-Spec. They all sound like oddball hangovers from another universe; as if a stale, tweedy culture took the world by storm in the latter half of the 20th century in place of the dominant American culture we know today.

L Sport

Stick together two or three weird letters, and it gets worse. “Oh yeah, I just bought the range-topper with 400 horsepower,” you’d say. “It’s the Supra YW.” It just doesn’t work. Nor would anyone want to buy a Mitsubishi Lancer PHF, a Honda Civic UJ,  or a Chevrolet Camaro MVD. They just sound random and ridiculous.

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You can even spoil the good letter combinations with poorly chosen additions. GT-W hardly screams racing prowess, and RS-P doesn’t exactly get your blood pumping. Poor word choices will also spoil an otherwise exciting letter. Imagine buying a Volkswagen Scirocco R-Envelope, or a Porsche Carrera Speedy-K. Okay, the last one’s kind of cool, but you get what I’m saying here.

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Ultimately, there’s a trick to making bad ones. Pick letters that have no performance link whatsoever. How could W mean anything fast? Could Q mean “big horsepower”—no it couldn’t! Beyond that, letters like P and V are dangerously close to naughty words so automakers tend to steer well clear of those as a matter of civility.

There are exceptions to these rules, of course. Automakers have, at times, dared to use some of these more obscure letters. Nissan is perhaps the most obvious example. In the 1980s, it sold the Silvia in a variety of trims themed after the traditional deck of cards—it sold Silvia J’s, Q’s, and K’s.

The J’s were naturally aspirated base models, the Q’s added a few options, while the K’s stood at the top of the lineup with the turbocharged drivetrain. They even later introduced an A’s trim, too. While it was an obvious naming convention, it failed to stick. Few owners still talk about the various trim levels today, largely referring directly to desirable engine and transmission configurations instead.

[Ed Note: Actually, in Britain, the Q-car means a high-horsepower sleeper! It’s a reference to seemingly unarmed-but-actually-quite-armed Q-ship naval vessels. -DT]. 

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The theme didn’t stick but it was a cool idea with some fun badging. Image: Infiniti

Good Letters

Really, though, what it comes down to is meaning. We’ll believe in just about any letter combination if it’s used for good reason. Similarly, if the first thing that comes to mind is undesirable or unrelated to performance, it’s a bad choice.

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The GT badge is perhaps the best example. It was first used on the 1930 Alfa Romeo 6C 1750 Gran Turismo. Loosely translated, it means Grand Touring, and in its purest form, it refers to a vehicle that combines high performance with a certain level of comfort for long drives. There’s a reason behind it, so it makes sense to us.

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Mustangs have long worn the GT badge to denote the V8 models. Image: Ford
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The “Five-O” badge has become an icon of the Mustang line, even referenced by Vanilla Ice. Image: Ford

The GT moniker then got used on a whole bunch of vehicles from all kinds of manufacturers, most of which used it in the same way. Each new vehicle wearing a GT badge added to the narrative, to the point that it became ingrained in our collective psyche. Now, just about anyone knows that GT has at least some kind of performance connotation.

The same goes for the beloved R badge. R stands for “racing,” it’s just that simple. Nissan was the first to tack it on to the GT prefix, creating the legendary GT-R family line that continues to this day. Those three letters have come to stand for outright performance, most often stamped on halo models and race cars. Other companies prefer to use R all by itself. Honda is perhaps the best known in this regard, creating legendary Type R models for the Civic, Integra, and NSX over the years.

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Honda has built a legendary reputation with its Type R models. The raciest letter is tied to the color red—which also appears on the modified Honda logo. Image: Honda
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The Type R badge has weight because Honda has never watered it down or applied it to weaker models over the years. Image: Honda

Overall, the GT- prefix is perhaps the most flexible performance badge. Mitsubishi built the Lancer Evo GT-A—denoting the automatic version of the rally-bred monster. Then you have legends like the Plymouth GTX or the Pontiac GTO. The latter designation typically stands for Gran Turismo Omologato, referring to specially-built roadgoing versions of racing models.

Meanwhile, Ford went oddball with the FPV GT-P. It’s traditionally a clumsy letter, as it can recall a popular part of the male anatomy, but it worked in this case. It stood for Premium, denoting a more luxurious version of the basic FPV GT.

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Even an awkward P couldn’t spoil the GT badge on this Falcon. Image: Ford

It’s also worth making an honorable mention to Subaru here. It created a performance division named Subaru Technica International—with the unfortunate acronym of STI. And yet, through quality product and sporting success, it created a badge with a grand reputation even despite its awkward connotations.

Make Your Case

I could spend all day listing various letter combinations. You wouldn’t like most of them. You might retort to my suggestions, stating “they’re just made up!” Here’s the thing about any combination of letters, though—indeed, they’re all made up. Somebody, at some point, lashed them together in an attempt to evoke an emotion, or catch an eye. The question is always the same—how well did they do their job?

There is an excellent example of this from modernity. 2012 was the fine year that Hyundai gathered a group of researchers and engineers and tasked them with creating a new performance brand from the ground up.

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Hyundai’s N badge has become an icon for the Korean automaker, along with its Performance Blue paint and red trim.

The Korean automaker could have gone down a well-trodden route. It could have designated its sports models with an S or an R, as so many companies do, or some other bland existing moniker. Instead, it decided to strike out boldly by declaring the letter N its new banner for speed, performance, and handling.

This could have easily faltered, but Hyundai hit all the right marks. It rooted the choice in some real life meaning—N referred to Namyang, the Korean home of Hyundai’s R&D center, as well as the famous Nürburgring racing circuit. It developed an eye-catching N logo that would be stamped all over its performance cars, and modelled it after a chicane.

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It helps that Hyundai went hard, plastering the logo all over its performance models.

The groundwork was laid, but this alone wasn’t enough. Hyundai couldn’t simply tell everybody that “N” was now a synonym for speed. It had to prove it out in the real world. It was many years before the first N models actually hit the market, but when they did, they proved Hyundai knew what it was doing.

The 2017 Hyundai i30 N combined turbo power with a sharp aesthetic and pointy handling, and set the stage. The brand was further reinforced by the Veloster N in 2018, and the company’s entry into the World Rally Championship a further year later. A flood of high-quality, high-performance N models followed, and in a few short years, N began to become synonymous with performance in people’s brains.

It’s a formula that Hyundai executed well. It chose a letter, and had a reason to tie it to speed. It then built products emblazoned with this symbol that reinforced the connection.

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You’ll find it inside the vehicles and out.

An interesting corollary is the story of Lexus in recent decades. Starting in 2006, the Japanese automaker tried to make a similar move with the “F” and “F Sport” badges. The Lexus IS-F was the first product to wear the designation, a sports sedan with a healthy 416 horsepower.

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The F later appeared on the Lexus LFA, RC-F, and GS-F. The letter was apparently chosen in reference to Fuji Speedway, or the word “fast”, depending on who you talk to.

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The weird F hasn’t caught on quite like Hyundai’s N. Image: Lexus

It’s hard to gauge these things, but Lexus’s F doesn’t stand out quite as well as Hyundai’s N. We could speculate about a few reasons why that might be the case. For a start, Hyundai kept its branding very clean and clear. The N is virtually always a suffix—the i30 N, i20 N, Ioniq 5N, and so on. Contrast this with Lexus stuffing F in wherever it will fit.

Lexus, like Toyota, has also had a bit of a penchant for awkward letter combinations. Toyota Racing Development has always been a bit of a joke for the scatological connotations of its acronym—TRD. The company’s luxury arm isn’t quite that bad at choosing names, but few would argue that “GS-F” rolls off the tongue or inspires excellence.

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Toyota has picked some awkward letter combinations over the years, none more so than TRD. Now, it’s gone with the equally enigmatic Gazoo Racing designation for performance models. GR is slowly catching on as a prefix. Image: Toyota/TRD
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The Carina ED is an even more hilarious example. It’s not about gentlemanly problems, it’s supposed to stand for Exciting Dressy. Image: Toyota

Sometimes, though, all it takes is a simple pattern to make a letter combination special. The best example of this is ZR1. It was a mere option code for Chevrolet order forms, and never intended to be anything more than that. However, those in the Chevy community would refer to the code directly when referencing the high-performance engine packages, and that led to Chevrolet building models with proud “ZR1” badging years down the line.

It’s the same story for the Z06 code, too. Chevrolet didn’t set out with the intention of making these special badges for marketing purposes—it just happened naturally. People associated these alphanumeric combinations with speed, to the point where it they became a selling point and an advertising tool on their own. A happy accident—it’s nice when the order forms do the marketing for you.

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GM’s original option sheet listed code ZR1 for a high-performance engine package.
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It later became a special model in its own right. Image: Chevy

Lessons To Learn

Ultimately, picking the right letters is an art more than a science. Still, there are a few lessons worth learning. Letters that hint at an obvious connection to speed are good—there’s a reason S and R are so popular, just as L is often used on luxury models. Meanwhile, letters that are used in more awkward words or with silly connotations—your Ps, Ws, Vs, and Qs—are best avoided. Connectivity is everything—you can take a letter like J and really make it work if your car is Japanese, but it doesn’t really translate to something of German or American make, for example.

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You can also never go wrong with numbers—if you choose them correctly. Generally, higher numbers tend to mean “better” in the automotive world, whether they refer to a greater engine displacement, number of cylinders, or total power output. Chinese automaker BYD has been bucking the trend by badging its cars with their zero-to-60 mph times, where lower numbers are faster. BMW did something similar when it built the M1 flagship many decades back. Ultimately, though, most of us know a 5, 6 or 7 is better than a 1, 2, or 3 in most cases—you can primarily thank the Germans for that.

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BYD has been going a unique route with performance badges—marking the 0-100 km/h times with a “3.8s” badge on the Seal. Normally, higher numbers are better, but not in this case. Image: BYD

If you’re footloose and fancy free, though, you can always go completely off book. Tesla did that in grand style when it invented the Plaid badge, but it’s not as stupid as it sounds. It’s a reference to a popular movie—Spaceballs—in which Plaid was established as the highest speed achievable by the spaceship. It’s a silly reference, but like so many good badges , it was rooted in existing cultural knowledge—they had a reason why Plaid should mean fast.

Fundamentally, sticking to a basic level of truth really helps sell a badge. Rocket could be a fast model; Moth could not.

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Tesla didn’t call it the Model S Sport or Model S GT. Image: Tesla
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They went with a memorable reference to a popular film—and created the Model S Plaid. Complete with a cool badge. Image: Tesla

Few people ever get to name a car, or a specific model—those privileges ultimately fall to a small number of people buried deep in the world’s automotive companies. Still, it’s useful to explore the basis of the names that are out there—and to try and put some meaning behind why we like the names and numbers that we do. It’s still subjective at the end of the day, but the tide of human opinion always creates winners and losers. It’s always interesting to examine the patterns that create both.

Image credits: Tesla, Lewin Day, Ford, Toyota, Lexus, Nissan
Top graphic image: Toyota

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ESBMW@Work
ESBMW@Work
1 day ago

VW and the whole R thing. Yes, R theoretically is the fastest letter. It’s just so lazy! Were they like “Hans! We have this new car it’s the fastest version of an economy car, much like the Type-R or how our sister brand has R and RS versions, what should we call it?” And he like “Other Hans, we’ll call it R!”. Then they furthered their commitment to laziness, by making the R-Spec a thing. Hyundai may have taken let’s say inspiration from ///M, but they at least went to an adjacent ///letter. That’s why I’m purposing they change it to the VW Golf U edition and various U-specs. As all other good letters are currently spoken for.

NebraskaStig
NebraskaStig
1 day ago
Reply to  ESBMW@Work

If I saw this I would call it a U-boat every single time.

Thi
Thi
1 day ago

I do think Q could work for very specific brands of a certain British origin.

Aston Martin does its customization services as Q by Aston Martin as a homage to the Bond movies. I could easily see them having Q as their top of the line performance package in an alternate universe/future.

For other brands it is a bit of an awkward letter though.

Tbird
Tbird
1 day ago

SHO once meant something…

Former ’94 SHO 5speed owner.

Last edited 1 day ago by Tbird
Canyonsvo
Canyonsvo
1 day ago
Reply to  Tbird

Still does. I own a 2013. Nothing like the originals, but still hauls ass. I also own, and have owned, the SVO. Which we joke means So Very Overpriced.

Tbird
Tbird
1 day ago
Reply to  Canyonsvo

All hail the Yamahammer.

Last edited 1 day ago by Tbird
Jesus Chrysler drives a Dodge
Jesus Chrysler drives a Dodge
1 day ago

47 comments in and no mention of the 6000SUX?

https://robocop.fandom.com/wiki/6000_SUX

ChefCJ
ChefCJ
1 day ago

I would argue that for a satire like Robocop, that badge works perfectly

Captain Avatar
Captain Avatar
1 day ago

The Lexus GS-F Sport is what I really want to get for my next car, but finding one near me that is not modded to hell, or has reasonable mileage, is proving to be difficult.

I want it as close to stock as possible so it looks like the family sedan it is. Stupid wheels, weird light mods, lowered suspension, tinted windows……its odd that people do this to a Lexus.

Anyway, I would think a designator that starts with “Y” would not really indicate performance. I tried it in my head, an saying “why” with most other things just…doesn’t sound like a sports trim, but a question.

TXJeepGuy
TXJeepGuy
1 day ago
Reply to  Captain Avatar

I know that feel. Checks all the boxes for me.

4jim
4jim
1 day ago

I never liked it when GM and others put every new toy as a badge on the back of the car. ABS, FI, EFI, E85, etc.

NebraskaStig
NebraskaStig
1 day ago
Reply to  4jim

ABS center caps on the wheels was definitely a choice someone made and didn’t go away from for over a decade

KC Murphy
KC Murphy
1 day ago
Reply to  NebraskaStig

I remember in the 70’s the brake pedal had an icon that either said DISC BRAKES or POWER BRAKES depending on the brand.

MEK
MEK
20 hours ago
Reply to  KC Murphy

That continued on all the way into the 90s. My grandfathers Buick Century wagon still had that on the brake petal. It was about a 1996 or so if I recall.

NebraskaStig
NebraskaStig
4 hours ago
Reply to  KC Murphy

I know these pedals as well!

Alexk98
Alexk98
1 day ago

“E” as a single letter might be up there as the worst performance indicator, it’s usually the economy or electric model. think BMW’s Eta engine cars in the 80s badged as “e” all universally less sporting than their normal versions, but the same goes for every other brand.

SLM
SLM
1 day ago
Reply to  Alexk98

For french-speaking people the e-tron is a confusing badge…

Canyonsvo
Canyonsvo
1 day ago

I like LTD. Supposed to mean special, as in “limited”. They are always limited to however many they can sell.

Tbird
Tbird
1 day ago

I’m getting old and they once meant something. AMG, Shelby, M,

Nic Periton
Nic Periton
1 day ago

I did at one time have a car that was badged as a 27 L WTF. The acronym was quite obscure at the time. The car was a 1920’s Phantom II chassis with a large engine.
Not quite a Q car but sort of.

Xt6wagon
Xt6wagon
1 day ago

Want a subaru RX. But everything has to be wrx now. Gl-10 also died if you want a shopping grade high end without the bodykit.

RX-RA also looks good even if it was last used on a vivo

Root Beer
Root Beer
12 hours ago
Reply to  Xt6wagon

Might still be a while before RX is no longer associated with Mazda’s death grip on the rotary performance pipe dream; then again, that never stopped Toyota/Lexus, so what the hell do I know. Guess it might only matter to enthusiasts.

Xt6wagon
Xt6wagon
12 hours ago
Reply to  Root Beer

Subaru rx existed from 85 on. So alongside the rx7.

Root Beer
Root Beer
11 hours ago
Reply to  Xt6wagon

Oh, huh, today I learned, thanks.

Alexander Moore
Alexander Moore
1 day ago

TRD is fine because it’s got lineage, but Honda’s new HPD branding is clunky and awkward. Likewise I find it interesting that Nissan didn’t really choose a letter, they’ve historically used the whole acronym ‘NISMO’ for any of their sporting variants. Meanwhile you Australians just enjoy inventing weird names for your trim levels anyway. I’ll take a Camry Sportivo instead of a TRD, please! Or is it Azura?

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DialMforMiata
DialMforMiata
1 day ago

HPD sounds like something RFK(j) doesn’t think you need a vaccine for.

4jim
4jim
1 day ago
Reply to  DialMforMiata

I just say it out loud as HPV.

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
1 day ago
Reply to  DialMforMiata

Oh, Lord, yet another thing to worry about.

EXL500
EXL500
1 day ago

Just say “TRD” instead of its individual letters – it’s always a Beavis and Butthead moment for me when I see it.

Alan Christensen
Alan Christensen
1 day ago
Reply to  EXL500

There’s room between the T and R for a small u.

EXL500
EXL500
1 day ago

Exactly.

Alexander Moore
Alexander Moore
1 day ago
Reply to  EXL500

Well obviously, but the novelty wears off super fast. I don’t even register that anymore.

NebraskaStig
NebraskaStig
1 day ago

Isn’t it now HRC (Honda Racing Corporation), which is better as an acronym but “corporation” is not something that sounds like it’ll bring performance besides to a spreadsheet.

Mpphoto
Mpphoto
3 hours ago
Reply to  NebraskaStig

I think “Hillary Rodham Clinton” when I see HRC.

Ishkabibbel
Ishkabibbel
1 day ago

TRD is a major miss, I don’t care how well used it is or how long it’s been. Toyota will never get me past saying “turd” out loud when I see one.

Jim Zavist
Jim Zavist
1 day ago

Cadillac Escalade >>> Cadillac BFD . . .

Ash78
Ash78
1 day ago

Anything followed by “-Line” just kills it for me. It doesn’t mean it’s a bad car, but I automatically think “You paid a lot for for larger wheels and better seats, maybe some black badges, but nothing else.”

It’s a weird in-between zone where a good car is pretending to be a great car, but only in the most cosmetic and poseurish way possible.

(Not saying this is always the reality, but I see it exactly like a lot of M-packages on older BMWs, or AMG for Mercedes; when the real thing already exists, it’s weird to mimic that. But I’m okay with it when consumers mod their own cars using fancier parts. It’s just when the mfrs do it…)

DialMforMiata
DialMforMiata
1 day ago
Reply to  Ash78

Kia’s especially bad with the “GT-Line” cars. All hat and no cattle.

Spikersaurusrex
Spikersaurusrex
1 day ago
Reply to  Ash78

Agreed. Line just means they gave a normal car sporty looks.

GreatFallsGreen
GreatFallsGreen
1 day ago
Reply to  Ash78

I don’t think anybody really thinks they’re fooling anyone. Most people just want a different look but don’t need the capability. SE or Sport can sound so generic, I’ll take it as an attempt at differentiation at least or connecting it to the brand.

Root Beer
Root Beer
12 hours ago

Same goes for the Corolla S, I initially thought they were doing something to compete with the Civic Si but nope. They’ve made up for it with GR though.

GreatFallsGreen
GreatFallsGreen
11 hours ago
Reply to  Root Beer

And they did have the XRS in the mid-2000s (and later one but that was just dropping in the Camry motor under the hood).

SE Camrys were in the front of my mind with that message too though, any actual mechanical tweaks hardly launch the model to the top of the class for driving enjoyment but still makes a big difference aesthetically over a plain Camry for not much more coin. (insert “grounded to the ground” joke here)

Dan1101
Dan1101
12 hours ago
Reply to  Ash78

Yeah Ford has ST-Line and even as the owner of a Focus ST I have no idea what ST-Line means. But I suspect I wouldn’t like it.

Mrbrown89
Mrbrown89
1 day ago

ST from the Ford Focus = Good
Ford Explorer/Edge ST = BAD

Doughnaut
Doughnaut
1 day ago

I really liked when Hummer went with “Alpha” for a trim level, but I was disappointed when it wasn’t denoted by an “A” or “α”. What a missed opportunity; though I suppose it made it so people could ask what the A meant.

Jesus Chrysler drives a Dodge
Jesus Chrysler drives a Dodge
1 day ago
Reply to  Doughnaut

Hint: rhymes with glass bowl.

Mechjaz
Mechjaz
1 day ago

I actually think about this a lot.
(Rambling headache stream of consciousness follows)
R is good. S is alright. Q is always dumb; Infiniti, you’re still wrong so these years later. Z is cool but usually has to be paired with something, else it’s the Nissan. B isn’t anywhere (fine. Group B, B-spec); I think there was an “A-Spec” Acura? Maybe a TL, am I making that up?

V is okay but uncommon; it’s not evocative of speed in itself, but “Spec-V” will always have a place in my heart. As of there were some special homologation specification (called “V”, naturally) to which the cars were built.

Letters can have multiplicative effects, too. A Z (don’t picture the Nissan, if you can help it) isn’t really much on its own. Even a Z4 has to be a Zee-Four. An R1 is (said rhetorically, I literally mean “suggests”) some chassis or engine code. But a ZR1? That’s a ZoomingRocketshipOne. Same for RS. Ford knew this for the Focus, and Audi knows it for the RS6 (though the R8 is the halo car, of course).

TRD always struck me as an unfortunate initialization, looking at close to “turd” as it does. Chevy’s (GM?) new gigantic AT something something X model just makes me think of motherboards. They should call a hybrid version the eATX.

V10omous
V10omous
1 day ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

V is okay but uncommon; it’s not evocative of speed in itself

I think two decades of Cadillac using the letter have given it enough cred by now.

Mechjaz
Mechjaz
1 day ago
Reply to  V10omous

Oh goodness. Totally slipped my mind and that’s especially shameful because the Blackwing is my current dream car if I ever get a real job again.

V10omous
V10omous
1 day ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

As cool as “Blackwing” sounds, it is a bit sad that they diluted the letter V like they did.

It’s easier to forget the V when people so often just say “CT5 Blackwing” or even “5BW”

NebraskaStig
NebraskaStig
1 day ago
Reply to  V10omous

5BW sounds like a 5 pack of wings from b dubs.

Doughnaut
Doughnaut
20 hours ago
Reply to  V10omous

Yeah, Blackwing is cool, but they tarnished V for no reason. I have a feeling come 10 or 20 years, people will see “Blackwing” as a semi-hokey thing of the ’20s era.

Jesus Chrysler drives a Dodge
Jesus Chrysler drives a Dodge
1 day ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

Would a ZR-1 in the UK or Australia be a “zed-R-1”?

A. Barth
A. Barth
1 day ago

Yes. Also in Canada, I think.

Mechjaz
Mechjaz
1 day ago

Ha! I almost typed that out. Yes it would!

Craig Simpson
Craig Simpson
21 hours ago

Yep, exactly how I say it in my head and out loud.

V10omous
V10omous
1 day ago

TRD definitely does not work.

Doughnaut
Doughnaut
1 day ago
Reply to  V10omous

I’d say it works when you say it: “Tee-Are-Dee” works. But every time I see it, I just think “turd”.

V10omous
V10omous
1 day ago
Reply to  Doughnaut

Turd or Tard, it hardly matters, it’s bad either way.

Hangover Grenade
Hangover Grenade
1 day ago
Reply to  V10omous

Gazoo Racing is ridiculous. And I don’t care if it’s GR because I know what it means.

Lockleaf
Lockleaf
1 day ago

Yeah, TRD was dumb, but “Kazoo Racing” is all I hear and that is worse. I’m always expecting an exhaust tone in kazoo notes.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
1 day ago

I like GR better than when it was GRMN. The latter just made me think of a GPS.

Root Beer
Root Beer
12 hours ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

Makes me think of a plane blowing up a backwater in the name of defending freedom from the Red Menace.

VanGuy
VanGuy
1 day ago

Not to mention I’m sure every teenager gets a giggle out of a certain potential pronunciation of “GR86”.

Manwich Sandwich
Manwich Sandwich
13 hours ago

Yup… especially for those of us who grew up watching the Flinstones.

4jim
4jim
1 day ago
Reply to  V10omous

I came here to either see this or post this. Thank you.

Jatkat
Jatkat
1 day ago
Reply to  V10omous

I really want to mock up some badges or decals for my Tracker- SHT. Suzuki High Tech.

ImissmyoldScout
ImissmyoldScout
1 day ago
Reply to  V10omous

How is it that nobody in Toyota America’s marketing department thought that maybe, just maybe, TRD (TuRD) wasn’t the best idea. “What do you drive?” “I drive a Taco TuRD!”

I don't hate manual transmissions
I don't hate manual transmissions
1 day ago

I passed one of those the other day.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
1 day ago

I think you’re onto something with value. Type-R hasn’t been diluted.

Seeing “Sport” emblazoned on the side of a minivan, just loses all the value. Just as Audi’s S-Line and BMW’s M-Sport hurts the branding legitimacy of the actual performance models.

It’s quite different when the owner slaps on an M badge (or red H in the case of a Honda), than when the factory does so.

Vic Vinegar
Vic Vinegar
1 day ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

For a while Mercedes was slapping AMG badges on anything with an AMG wheel package. Maybe they still are, but I don’t see a lot of new Mercedes these days.

And yes, agree that Honda has done well with reserving Type-R for cars that deserve it. Hell same with Si or even Type-S. They don’t just slap it on every car with an appearance package.

Last edited 1 day ago by Vic Vinegar
Doughnaut
Doughnaut
1 day ago

I remember when the first CTS-V was released, one of the magazines wrote some stuff about V being a clear copy of BMW’s M, but created by clearly working their way through the alphabet. Not sure I disagree, but I think it turned out pretty good.

StillNotATony
StillNotATony
1 day ago

X is cool. But one X only. More than that and it becomes… unsavory.

And probably just stay away from multiple K’s.

Gated_Grifter
Gated_Grifter
1 day ago

RS: Rental Spec (lowest trim)
DX: Deluxe (mid; usually best lease deal)
BM: Best Model (top of the line)

Last edited 1 day ago by Gated_Grifter
Mechjaz
Mechjaz
1 day ago
Reply to  Gated_Grifter

DP: Deluxe Plush (luxury trim)
FFM: For Fast Motorists (sport/racy trim)
CIM: See, I’m Motoring! (starter car)
ATM: Actually, That’s Mine (anonymous volume seller)

Live2ski
Live2ski
1 day ago
Reply to  Gated_Grifter

LE – Loser Edition
ML – Mid Level
TS – Top Spec

Manwich Sandwich
Manwich Sandwich
13 hours ago
Reply to  Gated_Grifter

S: Stripped (lower than the lowest trim… sold to fleets)

JurassicComanche25
JurassicComanche25
1 day ago

Im going to disagree with hyundai doing well with the N. Theyve muddied it up, applying the ‘n-line’ badge to cars that just use the look. Is it actually performance, or no? And its not just a package- its Nline badged.

Hangover Grenade
Hangover Grenade
1 day ago

BMW is guilty of that as well with their M packages.

Mechjaz
Mechjaz
1 day ago

They really just could not leave M alone, could they? Ugh. That one frustrates me to no end. Why is it so bad to have a thing clearly and simplify signify something? (Because there’s much more margin in putting plastic M badges on every goddamn model, but still, ugh)

DialMforMiata
DialMforMiata
1 day ago

Eeeeh, the Elantra N-Line actually has the 201hp 1.6 turbo motor. I’ll allow it, as it seems to indicate a mid-point between the ordinary Elantra and the full-on N.

Vic Vinegar
Vic Vinegar
1 day ago
Reply to  DialMforMiata

Right, as opposed to the Audi S-Line cars that is just an appearance package.

Andrew Daisuke
Andrew Daisuke
1 day ago

“D-Type” has a nice ring to it.

Last edited 1 day ago by Andrew Daisuke
Manwich Sandwich
Manwich Sandwich
13 hours ago
Reply to  Andrew Daisuke

Douche-Type.

Jatkat
Jatkat
1 day ago

They are mostly all terrible except for one: Super. Sport. 454SS HELL YEAH BRUDDER

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
1 day ago
Reply to  Jatkat

A Leopard tank with two stylized letters for “Super Sport” might get some attention.

Doughnaut
Doughnaut
1 day ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

Given the immediate connotations with “SS” I’m honestly amazed it works. I guess it helps that the styling of the letters is so different.

Jatkat
Jatkat
1 day ago
Reply to  Doughnaut

We beat them, we get to take the cool letters

MaximillianMeen
MaximillianMeen
1 day ago
Reply to  Jatkat

Looking around today, did we really?

Luxobarge
Luxobarge
1 day ago
Reply to  Doughnaut

In fairness, the Nazis seemed dead and gone in the ’60s. Who could have foreseen…you know, this?

AlterId is disillusioned, but still hallucinating
AlterId is disillusioned, but still hallucinating
1 day ago
Reply to  Doughnaut

The company later known as Jaguar was SS before the war and had to drop that quick.

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