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What Forgotten Car Features Ought To Make A Comeback? Autopian Asks

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Usually, when features on cars get phased out, it’s because the world’s moved on. Think about compact cassette players, vacuum-operated wipers, or six-volt electrical systems. The majority of people simply don’t miss those things because what came next was a sizeable improvement. However, every so often, a feature gets discarded for no immediately apparent reason. A feature that we miss. Today, it’s time to talk about gadgets, gizmos, and doo-dads we want to bring back from the automotive graveyard in the sky because not everything leaves when its time is truly up. I’ll start with an example.

This might come as a surprise to anyone more familiar with my premium hooptie tendencies, but my first few cars were all old and American, and most of them came with a delightful component of the HVAC system — a driver-facing vent under the steering column. While frequently referred to as the “ball-chiller vent,” this ingenious solution of ducting and grating will keep your unmentionables cool regardless of what you’re packing, to the point of being more effective than many ventilated seats on modern cars.

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Plus, it’s a relatively simple system. There’s a vent set into an interior trim panel, a bit of ducting, and boom — you can stay fresh, even in high humidity. There are no extra electrical components, little additional weight, and it doesn’t require perforated upholstery. It was a great idea, and something sorely missed on new cars.

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So, what car features of the past do you think should make a comeback? Maybe you’re a huge proponent of velour over leather, or found the turn signal-activated cornering lights on old luxury cars immensely helpful, or you just want normal cars to be available in actual colors aside from dark blue. Whatever the case, make your voice heard in the comments below.

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Thatmiataguy
Thatmiataguy
4 months ago

Buttons. They are gone in the majority of new cars because reasons. Now it’s a notable thing when a new car allows for manual control of HVAC and seat heaters.

Arch Duke Maxyenko
Arch Duke Maxyenko
4 months ago

A-Pillar vent window

Farty McSprinkles
Farty McSprinkles
4 months ago

Yes, that was my first thought

Chronometric
Chronometric
4 months ago

Best thing about my old BMW and Corvair.

Data
Data
4 months ago

Oddly not mentioned yet so: physical controls for HVAC/Radio.

If you must put it on a screen, then give me a row of hotkeys like old radio preset where I can assign often used functions to the front screen without needing to dive through multiple screens to find the feature I want.

Library of Context
Library of Context
4 months ago

Column shifters for automatic transmissions – frees up floor space (especially on FWD cars) and if it’s purely an electronic selector, not a mechanical one, it could be placed anywhere. And it can be operated by feel, unlike a dial or touchpad.

Thx1138
Thx1138
4 months ago

That is on my 2017 C300- it is great to have! Now there is a minor issue of being careful to do a slight bump up to put the car in neutral and not reverse.

10001010
10001010
4 months ago

FRIGGIN ASHTRAYS!!!!

Seriously, where did they go? Look, I don’t smoke so you’d think I wouldn’t care but plenty of other drivers do smoke and I’m can’t $#@&ing stand when cigarette butts are thrown out in front of me. In a car I imagine they’re getting stuck in a radiator or intercooler and on a bike I’m sure it’s going to end up between me and the seat and burning something. I know that’s unlikely but it wouldn’t be a damn problem if the auto manufacturers would just PUT BACK THE DAMN ASHTRAY!!!

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

P.S. Column shifters were a thing.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
4 months ago
Reply to  10001010

People threw cigarette butts out of windows in the heydays of ashtrays too.

10001010
10001010
4 months ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

Yes, I remember the commercials in the 80s, but anyone doing it back then were just jerks. Today you’ve got jerks and non-jerks tossing their butts because there isn’t any other option short of swallowing the butt. I mean, what else are they going to do, buy some aftermarket ashtray to stick in one of their 14 cup holders? Nobody is going to do that.

A. Barth
A. Barth
4 months ago
Reply to  10001010

I think someone who tosses a cigarette butt out the window is a jerk by definition. There are no non-jerks engaging in that behavior.

Surely they can arrange for an aluminum drink can or something for temporary storage instead of littering.

Last edited 4 months ago by A. Barth
Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
4 months ago
Reply to  10001010

Where I live smoking is a LOT less common so even without ashtrays there are a lot fewer butts littering the roads. YMMV though.

Chris Ruel
Chris Ruel
4 months ago
Reply to  10001010

Smoker here. I always keep a used water bottle with a couple inches of tap water to extinguish my cigarette. Hate litter bugs.

Trenton Abernathy
Trenton Abernathy
4 months ago

Full-sized spare tires.

Even donuts are being phased out. I can’t put all of my trust in the can of fix-a-flat they put in the roadside kit. Bring back full sized spares.

Clark B
Clark B
4 months ago

This is one of the reasons why we take my Sportwagen on long trips. It has a full size spare, so if I happen to get a flat, I can put on the spare, drive normally, and fix the tire when I get home.

VanGuy
VanGuy
4 months ago

My mom was a stickler for this.

Before I was born, in one of the family vehicles (some sedan), she’d gotten a flat tire once, and put on the donut, and apparently had a drive so miserable with it that she got a full-sized spare later and put it in the trunk.

…and proceeded to never need it for the remaining many, many years of that car’s life.

(But I’m not complaining…I replaced my car’s donut just because it was 12 years old.)

Data
Data
4 months ago
Reply to  VanGuy

Replacing the donut spare is not a bad idea. Childhood friend recently punctured a tire and it went flat at his house. He proceeded to install the donut spare to take it to the tire shop and it shredded apart due to age within the first mile.

VanGuy
VanGuy
4 months ago
Reply to  Data

*prolonged inhale* sweet, sweet validation

WaCkO
WaCkO
4 months ago

Many cars no longer even have spare tires. My ev6 I just bough doesn’t have one, but it has a tow truck button, and a tire repair kit. :/

Hondaimpbmw 12
Hondaimpbmw 12
1 month ago
Reply to  WaCkO

Puts you one up on my BMW. And the only flats I’ve gotten were ones that a “fix-a-flat” can could never fix. Who loses bolts on the street anyway?

Erik Waiss
Erik Waiss
4 months ago

The ball-vent was amazing, but air-cooled seats with taint ventilation are better…

Double Wide Harvey Park
Double Wide Harvey Park
4 months ago
Reply to  Erik Waiss

The Taint-ilator ™

Sid Bridge
Sid Bridge
4 months ago

Round glass sealed-beam headlights. Gimme a headlight that I just unplug and toss instead of a bulb that may or may not implode is I so much as get a little grease from my finger on it surrounded by a one-car-old plastic enclosure that slowly turns yellow until you can’t pass state inspection anymore.

Data
Data
4 months ago
Reply to  Sid Bridge

I regret that I have but one smily faced like to give.

VanGuy
VanGuy
4 months ago
Reply to  Sid Bridge

I feel like the actual right thing is in the middle somewhere, because I can’t imagine sealies were good for fuel economy.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
4 months ago
Reply to  VanGuy
Hondaimpbmw 12
Hondaimpbmw 12
1 month ago
Reply to  VanGuy

They were terrible for illumination. It feels like 3 fireflies in a jug would be just as useful. I love LEDs. I do dread when, inevitably, some dumbkoff breaks one out in a parking lot mishap.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
4 months ago
Reply to  Sid Bridge

I think this problem is solving itself with LED headlights.

Sklooner
Sklooner
4 months ago

I would like some window pillars that aren’t as thick as thighs please

Cayde-6
Cayde-6
4 months ago
Reply to  Sklooner

So…. you want a less-safe car?

Captain Muppet
Captain Muppet
4 months ago
Reply to  Cayde-6

It’s less passive safety but more active safety.

As I was recently knocked off my bike and hospitalised by a guy who didn’t see me I’m thinking we may have sacrificed too much in order to feel invulnerable.

Hondaimpbmw 12
Hondaimpbmw 12
1 month ago
Reply to  Captain Muppet

You can hide an f-150 behind the pillars of my F-150.

Rust Buckets
Rust Buckets
4 months ago
Reply to  Cayde-6

Improving visibility makes for a less-safe car?

Let’s not forget that crashworthiness and safety are NOT the same thing.

VanGuy
VanGuy
4 months ago
Reply to  Rust Buckets

I don’t know what the right answer is, but I imagine the policymakers and scientists involved with NHTSA, etc. greatly considered factors relating to “possibly more accidents, but less deadly on average, leading to fewer fatalities” when it came to things like increasing rollover safety standards.

I wish they were thinner too, but if it makes them more durable and more likely to protect me, I’m fine “suffering” them.

Generally, a crashworthy vehicle will keep me safe, yes.

Rust Buckets
Rust Buckets
4 months ago
Reply to  VanGuy

Also worth noting that width of the pillar and strength of the pillar are not necessarily the same thing.
It’s the 21st century, and we have materials stronger than mild steel available to us. A-pillars seem like a great place to use said stronger materials.

VanGuy
VanGuy
4 months ago
Reply to  Rust Buckets

I agree that stronger, thinner materials would be nice, but if they’re more expensive, people are already complaining about vehicle prices…

That’s an observation, not a refutation. Dunno what the answer is.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
4 months ago
Reply to  VanGuy

If it adds $5 to the price of a $50,000 car the only people who will complain are the corporate beancounters.

VanGuy
VanGuy
4 months ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

I mean, totally fair, and wouldn’t stop me buying one if I was in that market. If anything, the noticeably thinner A pillar would be a selling point if it was unique to certain models.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
4 months ago
Reply to  VanGuy

I think the thicker pillars are a styling choice to give the perception of safety rather than a cost or actual safety choice.

VanGuy
VanGuy
4 months ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

Instinctively, I wouldn’t think so. Fewer accidents is likely more desirable on the whole, for both the victims/drivers and also the manufacturers.

Yeah, spare parts and labor are worth money, but we’ve seen many times that bad press, lawsuits, etc. can undo a lot of sales’ worth of profit.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
4 months ago
Reply to  VanGuy

I’m basing my statement on a couple of things:

1) the poor visibility of the Camaro was by design. The focus groups liked it so styling trumped the safety of others:

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2016/02/explained-why-the-chevrolet-camaro-has-such-poor-visibility/

2) People buy large pickups and SUVs because they believe such vehicles are safer. I think thicker pillars will look safer than thinner ones whether they actually are or not and as such will help sell the vehicle.

One nice thing about our Autopian community is there are folks here who know much more on this topic than either of us. If we’re very lucky The Bishop or our favorite Goth may have their say on the matter.

Last edited 4 months ago by Cheap Bastard
VanGuy
VanGuy
4 months ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard
  1. Well, that’s upsetting and surprising to me…but okay, point taken.
  2. Against vehicles with smaller mass, I was under the impression they generally were.
Hondaimpbmw 12
Hondaimpbmw 12
1 month ago
Reply to  VanGuy

I loved the airy greenhouse of my 89 Civic SI.

AlterId
AlterId
4 months ago
Reply to  Rust Buckets

I remember seeing a Volvo safety car concept from probably the 1990s that had an A-pillar comprised of two (angled, of course) vertical pieces with a structure of crossing diagonals, all wrapped in glass or polycarbonate or emperor’s clothing fabric or something else that was see-through. That would look safe (like the structure of a bridge) and presumably meet any kind of impact standards, although I’m sure it would be more expensive than whatever carmakers use now.

Maybe visibility will come back in style when the next generation reacts to their parents’ SUVs.

Last edited 4 months ago by AlterId
The Schrat
The Schrat
4 months ago
Reply to  Cayde-6

For whom? The occupant, or literally everyone else?

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
4 months ago
Reply to  The Schrat

Follow the money.

Double Wide Harvey Park
Double Wide Harvey Park
4 months ago
Reply to  Cayde-6

Thick thighs save lives!

Maxzillian
Maxzillian
4 months ago

Imagine my surprise when I sat in my new-to-me 2000 Vehicross and found a crotch vent. I was both surprised and elated that such a thing still existed (twenty-five years ago).

V10omous
V10omous
4 months ago

Naturally aspirated engines with 8+ cylinders

Rust Buckets
Rust Buckets
4 months ago
Reply to  V10omous

Can we really call those “forgotten”? I think those are nearly as prevalent as they ever have been: only on certain very high end sports cars.

VanGuy
VanGuy
4 months ago
Reply to  Rust Buckets

I mean, I don’t know much but I feel like turbo V6s have really replaced where a lot of NA V8s have been.

V10omous
V10omous
4 months ago
Reply to  Rust Buckets

Huh?

From 1949-1980 or so you could buy pretty much every domestic car with a V8 engine.

Until very recently every half ton pickup was available with a V8, now only a couple are.

The V8 SUV is nearly extinct.

“8+” does not mean “more than 8”, although those have vanished too, even from high end stuff.

Rust Buckets
Rust Buckets
4 months ago
Reply to  V10omous

I totally misread your “8+” as a “>8”.

Naturally aspirated V8s are indeed much less common than they once were, but it’s not like you can’t get them in any Chevy fullsize pickup or SUV, and Ford pickups. “Only a couple half ton pickups” is an interesting way to say “50% of all half ton pickups on the market still offer a naturally aspirated V8”.

Last edited 4 months ago by Rust Buckets
Double Wide Harvey Park
Double Wide Harvey Park
4 months ago
Reply to  V10omous

I almost posted that comment verbatim.

Bill D
Bill D
4 months ago

Ashtrays. Although it’s dropped considerably from the ’70s and ’80s, the US adult smoking rate is still around 13%, according to the CDC. As someone who rides motorcycles and bicycles, I’m tired of people who flick cigarette butts (often still lit) out car windows. It’s an annoyance, and it’s a forest-fire hazard.

ProfPlum
ProfPlum
4 months ago
Reply to  Bill D

They did the same back in the 70s and 80s when the smoking rate was much higher. I got hit in the helmet more than once and watched people dump their ashtrays waiting on a red light in the left turn lane.

Rather than more ashtrays, they should be locked in their cars with the windows up if cigarette smoke is detected inside. /sarcasm

Ottomottopean
Ottomottopean
4 months ago

Pop up headlights!

More sarcastically but not really, rear visibility.

Tbird
Tbird
4 months ago

I will take quality cloth over leather any day.

What happened to the hand brake (or any manual parking brake)?

VanGuy
VanGuy
4 months ago
Reply to  Tbird

Agree on cloth.

…serious question, but do handbrakes have applications besides “fun”/drifting other than as a parking brake?

I only ever drove one vehicle with one and the only helpful thing about it was that it was visually clear if it was applied, but now we have that big red BRAKE light on the dash in case you forget to disengage it.

BigOldAndy
BigOldAndy
4 months ago
Reply to  VanGuy

Hills

VanGuy
VanGuy
4 months ago
Reply to  BigOldAndy

How do you mean? I use the pedal parking brake if I park on hills.

BigOldAndy
BigOldAndy
4 months ago
Reply to  VanGuy

Missed the “hand” brake in your comment. I do tend to snag my shin on foot brakes where the rubber has fallen off, but I drive old beat-up cars.

Uncle Cholmondeley
Uncle Cholmondeley
4 months ago
Reply to  VanGuy

I would use the handbrake as an ersatz hill holder on my old stick shift cars.

Rust Buckets
Rust Buckets
4 months ago
Reply to  VanGuy

I see you are not a manual driver. You use the parking brake for hill starting, and this is MUCH easier to do with a hand brake rather than a foot parking brake.

BigOldAndy
BigOldAndy
4 months ago
Reply to  Tbird

I see your cloth and raise you pillow-top cloth padding.

VanGuy
VanGuy
4 months ago
Reply to  BigOldAndy

My old conversion van’s plush cloth seats are a high I fear I will be chasing for the rest of my life.

Al Camino
Al Camino
4 months ago

Astro Ventilation aka crotch coolers.

A. Barth
A. Barth
4 months ago

The crotch-cooler would be okay, I guess.

Most features have been forgotten for valid reasons, though. For example, having a floor-mounted headlight high/low beam switch was pretty neat, but current cockpit designs don’t really have a good location for such a thing.

I would love to see lower beltlines and smaller A-pillars come back, but that seems unlikely given modern safety requirements. (That’s not a complaint; it’s an observation.)

Rust Buckets
Rust Buckets
4 months ago
Reply to  A. Barth

Current cockpit designs don’t have a good place for a floor mounted dimmer switch? Cars still have floors, if that’s what you mean.

A. Barth
A. Barth
4 months ago
Reply to  Rust Buckets

Modern cars have a “dead pedal” where the dimmer switch used to be.

And the switch cannot go on the dead pedal because that is supposed to be a footrest / place to for the driver to brace with the left leg.

VanGuy
VanGuy
4 months ago
Reply to  A. Barth

Hey, thanks for this! My dad told me about those switches and they sounded like a good idea to me, but that makes sense why they’ve gone away.

Double Wide Harvey Park
Double Wide Harvey Park
4 months ago
Reply to  A. Barth

You can just flick the headlight stalk. There’s no need for a dedicated foot switch.

H4llelujah
H4llelujah
4 months ago

Since wing windows was taken 3 times before I could get here, I’m going with spare tires.

The manufacturers are obsessed with trying to get rid of these.

Listen up you twerps, that little inflator with your “connected services” as a backup saving 15 lbs of curb weight does a person very little good when they’re sitting on the side of the road with a 1″ gash in a tire and no cell phone service. It’s just stupid.

Last edited 4 months ago by H4llelujah
VanGuy
VanGuy
4 months ago

I’m fairly young (for now…it will happen to me, I know…) so there aren’t many “gone in my lifetime” features I’ve particularly experienced.

So long as there are still (relatively) cheaper vehicles with buttons controlling HVAC and basically all non-navigation, non-infotainment systems, anything I can suggest is a nitpick.

The under-steering wheel vent sounds nice, but were those steering wheels height-adjustable? And, could those be closed or aimed completely off to the side? They sound nice for cool air in the summer, but I don’t think I’d want them blowing hot air in the winter.

Autonerdery
Autonerdery
4 months ago
Reply to  VanGuy

Crotch cooler vents were amazing. But, then again, my experience with them was in Southern California, where winter heating doesn’t get so intense.

Our El Camino had a tilt wheel, IIRC.

VanGuy
VanGuy
4 months ago
Reply to  Autonerdery

Oh yeah, they sound awesome for summer weather. I’m just wondering if you don’t suddenly rue their existence in the winter. (For example, I don’t know how far back cars had dials to change defogger/feet/face, etc., and which category the crotch cooler would fall under.)

Rust Buckets
Rust Buckets
4 months ago
Reply to  VanGuy

I believe the crotch cooler falls under the “face” category, and the selector has been universal on American cars at least back into the 70s.

VanGuy
VanGuy
4 months ago
Reply to  Rust Buckets

Thanks!…and actually, that’s the best-case, so you could do feet and/or defog without crotch heater. Yeah, I’m sold. Without ventilated seats, bring that back.

Jatkat
Jatkat
4 months ago

I swear to got the nut cooler in my 95 k2500 is there just for appearance. Even with full ac/heat, I never seem to get anything out of it.
Agree with the comments on vent windows. They are fantastic.

Hondaimpbmw 12
Hondaimpbmw 12
1 month ago
Reply to  Jatkat

My first 2 Hondas had the vent to the left of the steering wheel that could pipe what ever the HVAC was pushing or, in the winter you could open the vent to the outside and have fresh cool air in your face while pumping heat to the windshield and feet. Later ones, not so much. The BMW at least lets you adjust (within a small range) the temperature of the dash vents warmer or cooler than the feet/windshield.

Citrus
Citrus
4 months ago

Knee room.

Yes I’m going to keep whining about this.

Sid Bridge
Sid Bridge
4 months ago

Corner vent windows! Newer cars just aren’t designed with outside air in mind. It’s crazy satisfying to crank the corner windows on my ’68 Olds totally backwards and let them channel outside air exactly where I want it so I get optimum coolness without A/C and the perfect amount of my hair blowing in the breeze in the correct direction.

Cam.man67
Cam.man67
4 months ago

Wing windows.

Fordlover1983
Fordlover1983
4 months ago

VENT WINDOWS, DAMN IT! They are long gone from cars and light trucks. I work with medium duty trucks, and a few still come in with them, but they are getting phased out as the manufacturers redesign their cabs.

Last edited 4 months ago by Fordlover1983
Elhigh
Elhigh
4 months ago

Stick shift can come back. I’d be cool with that.

I’d like to see every car in the universe equipped with a little manual release for the trunk lid and the gas door. Too damn handy. I remember some Toyota models in the 80s, lift up for the trunk, push down for the gas. So neat.

Holly Birge
Holly Birge
4 months ago
Reply to  Elhigh

Yes! Toyota had two levers — one for the trunk/hatch and one for the fuel door. Nissans had the push down/pull up. I think Honda had the levers as well.

Bucko
Bucko
4 months ago

I would love to see those little windshield wipers on headlights come back

VanGuy
VanGuy
4 months ago
Reply to  Bucko

A sibling got a 2012 Prius v, similar to mine but higher trim level, and it has a button to spray the front headlights with wiper fluid, but no wipers. Still a nice touch, and I wonder what other USDM cars in this price range have that feature so relatively recently.

Autonerdery
Autonerdery
4 months ago
Reply to  Bucko

When I was test-driving my Volvo 850, many years ago, the sales guy had to call me because they thought I’d been gone too long—I had stopped in a parking lot to have my friend that was with me activate the windshield washers so I could get out and watch the headlight wipers!

Church
Church
4 months ago
Reply to  Autonerdery

How long did you watch the light wipers that the sales guy had to call you?!

Autonerdery
Autonerdery
4 months ago
Reply to  Church

Hey, I’m autistic, I could watch for hours.

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