Good morning! We’re kicking off this week with a pair of cars that are sure to get your neighbors asking questions when they see them parked in your driveway. Which one causes less embarrassment? That will be up to you.
We ended Friday’s experiment with an Isuzu and an Oldsmobile, and I kind of figured that you all wouldn’t go for that Calais. It put up a better fight than I was afraid it would, though, getting almost 40 percent of the vote. But even with a stickshift, there’s no way a forty-year-old GM car with no keys was going to win. I knew that. But I liked it, so I had to feature it.
Between those two, for me, it would come down to intended usage. As things are right now, all I’d be looking for is a toy, something to putter around with and drive to the beach on nice days, and the Amigo is the obvious choice for that. But if I needed a cheap beater just to get back and forth to work, I’d head straight for the Olds. Basic, reliable, easy to get parts for, and invisible to nearly everyone – that’s what I want in a daily driver.
Now then: The make, model, color, age, or condition of the car you choose to drive shouldn’t matter to anyone, but of course it does. We all judge people on their vehicles, and us car folks are probably worse about it than others. But those of us with a thing for cheap, old, weird cars sometimes have the opposite problem; we get self-conscious about our hoopties, and sometimes feel like we have to justify them – hence the popularity of “Don’t Laugh, It’s Paid For” bumper stickers.
The truth is that most of our cheap old cars probably fly under the radar of the general population, at least if they’re in presentable condition and not obnoxious. Neighbors can and do complain about certain cars being in driveways, but usually that has more to do with the neighbor than the car. Our two choices today, however, might raise some eyebrows in even the most tolerant of neighborhoods. Let’s take a look.
1979 Mercedes-Benz 450SL – $3,900
Engine/drivetrain: 4.5-liter overhead cam V8, three-speed automatic, RWD
Location: Culver City, CA
Odometer reading: 171,000 miles
Operational status: Runs and drives “pretty decent”
Almost no car in the world drops in both monetary value and cachet as quickly as a sporty Mercedes. New, they’re status symbols, sexy, state-of-the-art cars to be seen in. After a few years and a couple of owners, however, the bloom fades from the rose quickly, and they start to seem – I hesitate to say “trashy,” but yeah, kinda. Think of it this way: Jennifer Hart drove a Mercedes SL, but so did Ordell Robbie.
R107-chassis SLs have been bargains for a lot of years, but the value of nice ones has started climbing. Not-so-nice ones are still pretty cheap, but they are not without a certain stigma. I think it’s the modifications that work against it; the ground effects, AMG badge, lowered ride height, and aftermarket wheels just make it look less like the car of someone who solves crimes and more like the car of someone who commits them. But the good news is that these are stout, well-built cars, and there’s nothing here that can’t be undone.
It looks pretty good inside, and the aftermarket steering wheel is actually a big improvement over the ugly stock Mercedes wheel. The dashboard wears one of those carpet toupees, and I’m sure it’s hiding at least a few cracks. The other question is the condition of the soft top; remember, the SL is a convertible.
It could use some paint, especially on the hood. It’s too bad someone painted it flat black; if it were still burgundy and just faded, you could probably get away with calling it “patina.” As it is, I think a paint job is eventually in order. I think it’s strange that someone went to the trouble of installing Euro-style composite lights, and those weird ground effects, but left the gigantic 5 MPH battering-ram bumpers in place.
2006 Mitsubishi Eclipse – $3,700
Engine/drivetrain: 2.4-liter overhead cam inline 4, four-speed automatic, FWD
Location: Hayward, CA
Odometer reading: 170,000 miles
Operational status: Runs and drives well
Whenever a new version of a beloved car comes out, there are bound to be complaints. Even if the new generation turns out to be a vast improvement, it has to prove itself to the faithful who love the previous version. Sometimes, however, the criticism of the new car is valid, especially when it comes to size and weight. Such is the case with the Mitsubishi Eclipse. The original was everyone’s darling, the second generation became a movie star, and after that it got fat and mushy. This fourth-generation Eclipse weighs something like seven hundred pounds more than an equivalent first-generation would have.
The standard engine in this final generation of Eclipse was a 2.4 liter four with Mitsubishi’s MIVEC variable valve timing system. You could get it with either a five-speed manual or a four-speed automatic; sadly this one has the latter. It runs and drives well, the seller says, and everything works fine. It just completed both a smog inspection and a road trip to Reno, both of which speak highly of its mechanical condition. It does have a salvage title, from that little bonk on the nose. It doesn’t take much to total a car when it gets this cheap.
It has held up well over the course of 170,000 miles, and the seller says the air conditioning and heat both work well. My biggest problem with the Eclipse is that it feels a little dark and cave-like inside. The beltline is so high, and the windows are so small, that it feels smaller than it is inside.
We do, of course, have to mention the color. Mitsubishi has made some strange decisions, but never once did it offer the Eclipse in Pepto-Bismol pink. It’s a wrap, and the paint underneath is a far more subdued burgundy. You could remove the wrap, I suppose, or you could just embrace it.
You shouldn’t care what the neighbors think of your car, of course. But there are limits to what one is willing to explain. One of these used to be a respectable car until someone made a bunch of tacky modifications to it, and the other would blend into the scenery if it weren’t the color of Hubba Bubba. Either one can be put to rights, but in the meantime, you’d have to park it in your driveway as it is. Which one would you rather see out the window every morning?
(Image credits: sellers)
The Mercedes is the logical choice, but the Eclipse is a Hello Kitty sticker away from being somebody’s prized car.
How about “No”?
I had a 4th gen Eclipse as a rental for a couple weeks.
I voted for the Mercedes.
I usually choose the path of least resistance, but I’ll make an exception here. When you peel the pink, you’re going to be left with a fairly easy to live with but utterly forgettable ’06 eclipse. If you take the harder path of de-junkifyng and painting the Benz, you’re going to have a classy (albeit expensive to live with) weekend cruiser.
Yes. Unfuck the Mercedes and you have a beautiful classic.
Or unwrap the Eclipse and you have a decent DD.
Hmm. Well, for me, RWD always wins if it’s a ‘sporty’ coupe. Plus, I still like the Merc’s styling and…taillights. All the questionable mods didn’t ruin that.
Plus, Holy Wheel Gap, Batman! on the Eclipse.
Alternate use case for the Mitsubishi: a car for your kids.
It’s not terrible, discourages them from having people they like in the back ‘seats’, and stands out so much that they’d not be able to get away with any anything on public roads without being instantly recognizable.
this is…brilliant.
multiplied by the value of embarrassing parents.
I’ll take the Mercedes. The mods aren’t terrible and it would make for a more interesting weekend car. Also it’s interesting that this one has the Euro headlights. I wonder if this is just a US car with the Euro headlights or if it’s a grey market import.
Grey Market Mercedes didn’t become a thing until a couple years later when you could not get a powerful V8 from MBUSA.
Was any market besides the US afflicted with those fugly 5 mph bumpers?
It was like some brands seemed to go out of their way to make them look awful. Mercedes was one of them. BMW’s on the other hand didn’t look half bad.
On the other hand, the huge bumpers make for a convenient bench to sit on at the local cars & coffee.
Either one of these will cause pain. The Mercedes? Long-term, wallet-busting, stress-inducing pain from flaky climate control setups, aged Bosch fuel injection issues, and more (with the black hood, I’m kinda’ surprised that it wasn’t LS-swapped). The Mitsu? Like staring at an eclipse of the sun or listening to Bonnie Tyler singing about total Eclipses: Retina-searing (or in the case of the song), ear-worming… That said, I’ll take the Eclipse this time around, and remove the wrap.
That Eclipse has a lot going for it despite the pink. You could remove the wrap, or lean into it and add some rattle can artistry.
Now, I’m imagining the Mitsu as a Keith Haring tribute car, and honestly that’s a viable option.
I’ve always wanted an SL, but not that one. I suppose the mods are accounted for in the price, but I’d rather buy a late 80s model.
I like colors on cars, just not Pepto-Bismol pink. I’m going with the Benz today
This was my take as well. As hacked as the poor SL is, that pink is just…yuck.
I reluctantly voted for the Eclipse. I presume the wrap is covering up flaws. I don’t think this car was properly repaired after the accident (the hood is misaligned and dented, and the bumper looks like it has some flaws). I also think it is overpriced by at least $1,000. Still, the interior looks to be in excellent condition, so I presume someone took car of this car reasonably well. This could be a decent “an car” for someone who just needs transportation, once that hideous wrap is removed.
Also, that Benz is just plain awful. I can’t believe Mark found a Benz that is so bad that it made me vote for Trailer Park Barbie’s dream car.
As someone who has owned both 1G and 2G AWD DSMs I can say that this 4G FWD “Eclipse” doesn’t deserve to be mentioned in the same conversation as its predecessors. I voted Mercedes where at least I can drive around pretending to be the “Bad guy of the week” in a Miami Vice or Dynasty episode.
My neighbours said nothing at all when my red BMW 535i got replaced by a green Elise, so I think car-normies may be even more car blind than we think.
But not blind enough not to notice that pink thing. Much more importantly it’s a car I don’t want, not even a little, even if it was a nice one. The Merc could be saved though, so that.
I bought an RX7 once that had been painted a custom two tone red over satin black. I managed to wipe off all the satin black paint with rags soaked in thinners, and it only took a few hours. The type of idiot who rattle-cans a bit of a car turns out to be the same sort of idiot who doesn’t sand the original paint to provide a key for the new paint. Biggest cosmetic improvement/£ ever.
Takin’ the hooptie Benz. Clean up the paint and live with it. Maybe look for more correct, smaller wheels
These are both nightmarish in their own ways. I can smell the interior of the Benz from here. It’s probably something akin to a ratty dive bar. Stale cigarettes, that vaguely sweet and gross smell of rotting spilled liquor, and an assortment of bodily fluids firmly in the category of “the less I know the better”.
But the Eclipse is a house of horrors in its own right. I can tell you with certainty that multiple parts of that car have been bedazzled in fake diamonds at one point or another, the stereo is probably blown out from years of blasting Nikki Minaj, and it absolutely smells like some combination of cheap perfume, cheap skincare products, weed, vape juice, etc. Pick your poison.
Best case scenario it was owned by a divorced hair stylist. Worst case scenario it was owned by a stripper or college girl. Either way, if your Bumble date rolls up in that Eclipse you have a serious decision to make. I promise you that you’re going to have a great time initially, the question is whether or not it’ll be worth potentially ruining your life for.
What are we talking about again? Anyway give me the Benz. I can get rid of the shitty mods on a Saturday afternoon and with a little bit of work it’ll look presentable. There’s still a good car underneath all the BS. There isn’t a good car underneath the Eclipse’s wrap. At the end of the day it’s a gussied up front wheel drive econobox. The Benz is a rear wheel drive, V8 luxobarge.
Rented a fwd Gallant around this time and it was just all around disappointing. Fuel economy was terrible too for a 4 cylinder.
Some might argue that this era and generation of Eclipse was precisely when Mitsubishi died, and for good reason.
For me it died with the 3G Eclipse when they ditched the AWD and 4G63 Turbo.
Excellent writing: I can smell both cars now.
So thanks for that.
If your Bumble date shows up in that Eclipse, you better have met them at the bar/restaurant/ club. You do NOT want her knowing where you live!
If your Bumble date drives that Eclipse there’s a decent chance the first date is “watching Netflix” at her apartment. Remember: you’re there for a good time, not a long time. If all goes according to plan….which it won’t
What? No Netflix? How disappointing.
I’m not sure how to break this to you softly, my friend….but usually the point of that get together is not to watch Netflix and if you offer such an outing with genuine intentions you may find yourself in a situation you did not plan for
Well that does explain a few things.
The use-case applies here for me. If this was at the point where I needed a cheap replacement for the wife’s work-beater, then I think she’d get a kick out of that Eclipse, pink-wrap and all. However, her car is still running okay, so for myself it’s the bargain-bin, big-bumper Benz.
The only thing the neighbors would think is “Huh, is that guy back to buying old Mercedes?”
R107s, all day every day. The mods are unfortunate… especially as I think the R107 is damn near perfect (yeah Euro lights and bumpers are better, but it’s not like the US ones are bad, the Euro spec is just better). Even the nice ones have cracked dashes too. If you take god care of it, I can’t think of a car that rewards you as much – style for days, comfort, and an unbeatable atmosphere with an absolutely rock solid build quality. My gold 380SL is in better shape, but this one would still give you a good time
The old MB just looks, well, old… and tired… and almost certainly smells like stale cigarettes, cigars, or vape, or some combination of all three. The 450 isn’t one of the more desirable of this era so I can’t see that the cost of restoring it would be worth it, especially with the miles. The ground effects are giving me JC Whitney flashbacks and probably left Sheetmetal screw holes everywhere so removal will be a PIA. Also the wheels are pretty hideous. Overall it makes me think of that 45 year old guy that never left town, perpetually had some new side hustle/scam going that was going to make it big any day now. He drove the cheap MB to make everyone think he was a baller but everyone knows the real deal.
The Eclipse looks to have been reasonably well take care of and I’m honestly kinda diggin the pink warp. Yeah it’s a crappy car, but it’s a cheap one to get you form point A to B and the maintenance shouldn’t be bad and you’ll never lose it in the Walmart parking lot.
“Overall it makes me think of that 45 year old guy that never left town, perpetually had some new side hustle/scam going that was going to make it big any day now. He drove the cheap MB to make everyone think he was a baller but everyone knows the real deal.”
In my town that describes the guys who did leave town….to smaller, crappier towns.
I’d rather be seen in the Benz than the hot pink Eclipse that was just a giant let down to all the Eclipse enthusiasts who wanted another turbo/AWD car. I’d rather drive an EclipseCross than that thing.
I have always liked those Mercedes, and I can un-pimp this one pretty easily.
I have never wanted a Mitsubishi Eclipse. Didn’t even like the turbo ones, and later generations truly angered me with their crappiness.
That Merc would make anyone look like an aging coke dealer from the 80s. Which is still better than what the Eclipse would say.
Pep Boys 450SL all the way
I chose the old car.
I like the C107 more than I should, but I’ll take the R107 in this showdown over the shitty Eclipse.
R107 for the win. I don’t mind the wheels so much, but those ground effects have got to go. Is it hard to take that cr*p off?
Anything done by this owner is held on with double-sided tape and drywall screws at the most.
I would say that they would have used aluminum nuts and bolts because they are cheap and they did not want to have them coming off when they are trying to impress new investors in their latest way to make money in only 2 hours a day.
Who cares about galvanic corrosion!