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Why BMW Is The Only Luxury German Automaker Not Sucking Butt This Year

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It was a tough first quarter for German luxury automakers Audi, Porsche, and Mercedes. There are a lot of reasons and we’ll look at those, but there’s one German automaker not sweating it: BMW. What’s the deal with BMW? Why is it suffering less? Let’s take a deeper look.

The National Transportation Safety Board is suddenly way more important these days as rail, aviation, and highway disasters seem to be piling up. There’s a nomination before the U.S. Senate for a new term for the current board chair and it’s a big deal.

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Partially, it’s a big deal because the automotive industry is rapidly trying to make self-driving cars a thing. Tesla is in the lead in terms of emphasis, if not actual tech, and its enthusiasm for pretending like its cars can actually drive themselves has resulted in a rare legal settlement from the automaker.

There’s been a movement to restrict California from enforcing its EV rules, but the U.S. Court of Appeals says California can keep on keeping on.

Let’s dumpty dump like Shock G.

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BMW Is The Surprising Outlier Among German Luxury Brands

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I was chatting with Parker and some other car folks about design this morning and Parker brought up that he felt like we’re in a great period where a wide variety of automakers are creating interesting products people want (Defender, new 4Runner, Santa Cruz). The one automaker that was conspicuously not on his list was BMW.

There’s a bit of an enthusiast bias for/against BMW. It’s a company that has the benefit/burden of having such a great past that the present doesn’t always feel right. This is in spite of BMW making cars that are faster, safer, and nicer at the same time. There’s no stock BMW 2002 that wouldn’t get knee-dropped by a BMW X4 M Competition around Laguna Seca. Hell, an E30 M3 would probably lose that race.

Some of this is design. It’s polarizing. It’s distinct, but it’s not for everyone. All of this would leave an enthusiast with the impression that BMW is a doomed company. Far from it, BMW is doing quite well relative to its competitors so far this year.

Why? First of all, BMW still builds a ton of fantastic cars, both gas and EV. The BMW iX is a stellar electric crossover. I borrowed one and, though it wasn’t precisely to my taste, it’s impossible to ignore that it is a well-built and extremely comfortable car. The new BMW M2 is great. Of all the European automakers, I think BMW has the best EV lineup.

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In Q1 of 2024, total sales were up 2.4% in the United States compared to Q2 of 2023, and BEV sales were up 62.6%, accounting for more than 12% of BMW’s total volume. Globally, the company is up 2.5% over the same period, with a 40.6% increase in BEV sales.

I don’t think the new BMW X2 is something I would buy, but it’s attractively priced (would you rather have that or a Hornet?) and I’m sure they’ll sell a ton of them.

BMW has exposure to China, where it’s down 3.8%, but there’s enough growth everywhere else to counteract that. It’s hard to say the same for the rest of Germany’s luxury automakers.

Porsche, percentage-wise, had a rough Q1 with deliveries down 4% globally, including a 24% drop in China. Given China’s economic uncertainty and demand woes that’s not a huge surprise, but what’s going on in North America? It seems like the Audi/VW/Porsche vehicles that were held in ports due to a non-compliant part were mostly Porsches. There’s a new EV Macan coming, which might help, plus that part issue has been resolved.

Mercedes also had a rough go of it in China, with a 13% drop in that country which contributed to an overall 6% decrease in sales in Q1 2024 for the company globally. Is all hope lost? Not quite. Mercedes-Benz is in the midst of a production rollout for the revised and locally-built LWB E-Class and U.S. sales were up slightly.

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And then there’s Audi. I haven’t seen Audi Q1 global amounts released yet, but the picture is bleak in the United States where there was a 16% year-over-year drop. The company’s big volume Q5 was down 33% Y-O-Y, and the Q7 was down 35%. Electric cars were generally up, but they were also available.

Given that Audi CPO volume was up 66% I think some of this is likely due to the port issue as well, especially considering that Audi had a strong 2023. Globally this ain’t gonna help though.

In the end, BMW has a desirable product mix, a strong EV portfolio, and a little bit of good timing on its side. We’ll see in a quarter if everyone else catches back up or if BMW extends its lead.

The NTSB Chair Is An Important Person You Never Want To Meet

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Like Harvey Keitel in “Pulp Fiction,” the chair of the National Transportation Safety Board is not someone who shows up when things are going well. It usually means a plane has crashed, a boat has hit a bridge, or a rail car full of noxious chemicals has overturned somewhere.

The NTSB’s current chair is Jennifer Homendy and she’s up for another term, which means she gets to appear before the Senate’s Commerce Committee.

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David Shephardson has read her testimony and filed this report, which included this little bit:

“On scene, my most important duty is to brief the families on what is often the worst day of their lives. It’s why I fight so hard for NTSB safety recommendations,” Homendy will say, according to her written testimony pledging to continue serving “as a fierce advocate for improving transportation safety.”

It’s not a great gig, but someone has to do it, and so far I’ve appreciated Homendy’s tough stance on a number of issues. In particular, Homendy has pushed for advanced driver assistance systems like Tesla’s ‘Autopilot’ to be more closely scrutinized.

Tesla Settles Autopilot Lawsuit

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It does sometimes feel like Tesla gets away with everything and wins every court case, especially since CEO Elon Musk bought Twitter and turned it into his own echo chamber, though that’s not reality.

In fact, Tesla settled a lawsuit this week with the family of engineer Walter Huant, who used his Model X’s ‘Autopilot’ system and felt comfortable enough with it that he was allegedly playing a video game when his car crashed into a barrier.

Per the AP:

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After dropping his son off at preschool, Huang activated the Autopilot feature on his Model X for his commute to his job at Apple. But less than 20 minutes later, Autopilot veered the vehicle out of its lane and began to accelerate before barreling into a barrier located at a perilous intersection on a busy highway in Mountain View, California. The Model X was still traveling at more than 70 miles per hour (110 kilometers per hour).

Huang, 38, died at the gruesome scene, leaving behind his wife and two children, now 12 and 9 years old.

Tesla said it settled the case to avoid years of litigation, but I do wonder if part of this doesn’t have to do with who was killed. This wasn’t a random person who was out drinking, as in a previous case. This was an Apple engineer en route to work in the morning.

It would have been difficult to paint Huang as a technological neophyte or an irresponsible person.

EPA Says California Can Keep Its EV Mandate

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California has long been able to set its own emissions standards, largely because the state suffered so much from vehicle emissions in the 20th century. This includes setting the state’s first EV standards, which California rolled out in 1993.

Lately, the California Air Resources Board (CARB, get it?) pushed a plan to end all gasoline-only sales by 2035. Many other states follow California’s lead, so this was a de facto ICE ban for much of the country.

A collection of 17 Republican-led states opposed this idea and tried to sue, but the U.S. Court of Appeals said California has a right to do this.

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From Reuters via Automotive News:

California Gov. Gavin Newsom said the “court sided with common sense and public health against the fossil fuel industry and Republican-led states. This ruling reaffirms California’s longstanding right to address pollution from cars and trucks.”

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MrLM002
MrLM002
8 months ago

I am very particular about which new cars I’d buy, but less particular than I have been.

That being said, I cannot think of a traditional new automobile from Germany that I want.

The i3 has been gone for years (but some shark managed to snag a NOS one not too long ago), The ID Buzz when it eventually gets sold in the US will probably be stuck with CCS for way too long, and won’t be sold in any variant I would want, same for the e-Sprinter, etc.

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
8 months ago

Wyoming will be the first to ban EVs, not so much because they don’t want them, but because so many in the state can’t spell EV.

Miles
Miles
8 months ago
Reply to  Canopysaurus

Being a Wyomingite, I partially agree with this assessment. We in the Equality State all know EWs are dangerous. /s

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
8 months ago
Reply to  Miles

Haven’t loss your sense of humor, though.

Manwich Sandwich
Manwich Sandwich
8 months ago
Reply to  Miles

What’s the issue youse have with EGs again?

LOL

Miles
Miles
8 months ago

They keep blindin’ the horses with those highfalutin electric lanterns lighting the way.

BunkyTheMelon
BunkyTheMelon
8 months ago
Reply to  Canopysaurus

Are all 38 residents of Wyoming behind the ban?

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
8 months ago
Reply to  BunkyTheMelon

“Behind the ban” is where you keep firewood in Maine.

Boulevard_Yachtsman
Boulevard_Yachtsman
8 months ago

After making lots of fun of BMWs morphing in the Buc-ee’s mascot, I was rather surprised at how much I genuinely like the looks of their IMSA GTD entries.

As to a potential EV ban, I don’t think any states will actually ban them, but I can definitely see some really stupid license plate fees going forward. With “You’re not paying enough road-tax through gasoline, so pay us an extra couple of grand for your plates” reasoning to push it through.

Aaron
Aaron
8 months ago

I wonder which state will be the first to ban EVs.

A state-level Republican in Wyoming tried. Given his hilarious failure, I doubt we’ll see anyone actually pull this off. But if I had to put money on someone, it’d be Florida. Always bet on Florida to do the insane and unthinkable. Especially with Meatwad DeSantis at the helm.

Nsane In The MembraNe
Nsane In The MembraNe
8 months ago
Reply to  Aaron

Hey now, don’t disrespect him like that. That’s PUDDING FINGERS, not Meatwad.

Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
8 months ago

I assume we’re worried about disrespecting Meatwad and not the other way around right?

I like Meatwad.

Aaron
Aaron
8 months ago

I feel sincere remorse for disparaging our beloved lil’ guy in such a way. Ron “Puddin’ Fingers” DeSanctamonious can [redacted], though.

Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
8 months ago
Reply to  Aaron

I respect the admission, and appreciate the revision.

Nsane In The MembraNe
Nsane In The MembraNe
8 months ago

I do too. I used to love getting stoned off my ass and watching Aqua Teen Hunger Force in college.

Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
8 months ago

Great times. I have the first 4 seasons on DVD kicking around here somewhere…

Nsane In The MembraNe
Nsane In The MembraNe
8 months ago

That era was peak Adult Swim and remains untouchable. I also love Metalocalypse, and Super Jail was another show I enjoyed in severely altered states of mind. I want to say that was around the time when they were collaborating with MF DOOM as well.

Brian Ash
Brian Ash
8 months ago

Ah AS was always great, CN biggest loss in cutting the cord.

My kids still have no idea what Kraweechee (sp?) means or where it cam from, I use it daily.

F Meatwad, Master Shake all the way….. or Mooninites…. Carl is definitely never owning an EV…

Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
8 months ago

My profile name certainly implies that I’m a fan of this era. Tim and Eric Awesome Show Great Job, Sealab 2021, Harvey Birdman, etc.

The entire vibe was great, right down to the music, the bumpers, everything. That somehow seamless experience despite the whiplash in styles from show to bizarre show is completely lost without cable as Brian notes below.

MAX FRESH OFF
MAX FRESH OFF
8 months ago

Meatwad busting Beef Rap by MF DOOM!
https://youtu.be/kS7aRs3IA50?si=7yYnfPdKlMIZw0sx

Brian Ash
Brian Ash
8 months ago

Do you remember the Boston Mooninites bomb scare?

That morning I drove by one, as was like OMG LOL. Hours later the city is in lock down. Next day I sent many emails to city officials telling them the were F’in Idiots. It happened in many cities and Boston is the only one that freaked out, arrested people, can’t recall what punishment the guys got…

Nsane In The MembraNe
Nsane In The MembraNe
8 months ago
Reply to  Brian Ash

How could I forget?!

Brian Ash
Brian Ash
8 months ago

Are you Peter? hahhaha I must be old because it seems longer than 17yrs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Boston_Mooninite_panic

Spartanjohn113
Spartanjohn113
8 months ago
Reply to  Brian Ash

Shit. I was thinking that was just 10 years ago…

Nsane In The MembraNe
Nsane In The MembraNe
8 months ago
Reply to  Spartanjohn113

As was I

Manwich Sandwich
Manwich Sandwich
8 months ago

But I like meat! Meat is good!

How about Puddingwad?

Nsane In The MembraNe
Nsane In The MembraNe
8 months ago
Reply to  Aaron

When has Pudding Fingers ever taken what Floridians like or need into consideration?

Aaron
Aaron
8 months ago
Reply to  Aaron

Florida has shown a remarkable appetite for doing things directly against their own best interest. A state dependent on tourism wouldn’t normally start a beef with one the largest themepark and media empires… a state so vulnerable to climate change wouldn’t ban the mere mention of those words in government communication… and yet Florida,,,

SaabaruDude
SaabaruDude
8 months ago
Reply to  Aaron

I think a ban on banning ICE is more likely – I could see that happening in many places.

Needles Balloon
Needles Balloon
8 months ago
Reply to  Aaron

Desantis won’t because he allied with musk during his primary campaign (he announced his bid on musk’s twitter). Perhaps his successor will.

Fuzzyweis
Fuzzyweis
8 months ago

The funny thing about EVs and California vs ‘red’ states(TX, the southeast), is due to laxer regulatory laws, a lot of the red states are booming with EV charging spots, CA is one of the hardest states to add a lot more charging spots due to regulations.

Like, do you want EVs or not? If you want everybody to get EVs, having ample charging(at least as ample as gas stations) should be a priority, but nope, Cali’s gonna Cali.

Nsane In The MembraNe
Nsane In The MembraNe
8 months ago

It’s not hard to see why BMW is successful at all. I think most of it is due to the fact that they’ve taken a stellar approach to electrification, and not just BEVs. They have more or less standardized mild hybrids across their ICE lineup, which has led to significant gains in fuel economy on top of their already extremely efficient B48 and 58 powertrains.

BMW’s ICE offerings pretty much sit at the top or near the top of their classes when it comes to fuel economy, and in 2024 that’s something that really matters to a lot of people. They also have stellar PHEV offerings with 40+ mile EV range that they can’t keep on lots. Even several year old X5 40es with less range and 40,000 miles on the clock are selling for near $50,000 in my area, because people want PHEVs. As you all know my dad got an X5 50e last year and it’s incredible. BMW more or less has a PHEV variant of all their volume sellers at this point.

They also understand something about EVs that most manufacturers don’t-that people don’t want ridiculous tech spaceships that try to reinvent the wheel. Customers are more likely to consider an EV if it doesn’t involve much adjustment and behaves like what they’re used to. Even if it doesn’t lead to the best EVs when it comes to range or platforms, they move more of them.

That’s by design. A 4 series and an i4 are virtually the exact same other than the powertrain. It’s the same way with a 5 series and i5. BMW intentionally offers one experience across the board with these models that allows you to pick the powertrain. I see i4s all over the place and am already seeing more i5s than 530is. What’s more of an adjustment for the average buyer-hopping in something that nearly identical to the ICE car they’re trading in or hopping in a Lucid?

The other German manufacturers have screwed up pretty hard on this front. Mercedes EVs are dystopian tech nightmare that no one wants. Audi’s EVs aren’t competitive at all, and neither company has much of anything to offer when it comes to hybrids. If you’re someone who’s well off, environmentally conscious, and wants a luxury car BMW is kind of the only shop in town right now. There’s also Lexus, but I think the Venn Diagram of Lexus and BMW shoppers is nearly two separate circles.

There are other reasons as well. Their interiors are class leading and ridiculously solid. As controversial as their designs are they appeal to the conspicuous consumption crowd because they draw way more attention than something like a Q5 or GLC will. All their platforms are RWD except the X1/X2 and 2 series GC, which the other Germans and most of the Japanese luxury brands can’t claim.

But if I had to point to one thing? It’s electrification. They understood the assignment well and put their eggs in the right baskets. Their success is similar to Toyota’s at the moment. People want hybrids, they want better fuel economy, and if they’re going to go electric they don’t want to deal with some techno spaceship monstrosity that’s reinvented 500 things solely for the sake of reinventing them. You won’t find a goddamn yoke in a BMW.

If I was shopping for a luxury car right now the local BMW dealership would probably be my first stop. They’re not making the balls to the wall enthusiast cars quite like they once were, but rumors of their demise have been greatly exaggerated.

Last edited 8 months ago by Nsane In The MembraNe
Morello
Morello
8 months ago

This. Volvo is really the only other game in town when it comes to compelling EV and PHEV options, but for folks who habitually lease a new (BMW/Mercedes/Audi) sedan or SUV every couple years, BMW is the only one of the three that makes a compelling case to upgrade.

An iX3 would sell like hotcakes around here (socal). Hopefully Porsche has some success with their new EV Macan.

Nsane In The MembraNe
Nsane In The MembraNe
8 months ago
Reply to  Morello

I’m anxious awaiting the leases on the Macan EV. Like I said in my reply to Stef, Porsche rarely offers competitive leasing or financing since many of their customers can afford to pay cash/they don’t want the poors being able to get within striking distance. But in the EV game leasing is key right now and it’s the only way you should be considering a new EV.

If they get it in the $6-800 range there’s a decent chance a Macan EV is my next car in a couple years. If it’s 4 figures then fougetaboutit!

Ben
Ben
8 months ago

But if I had to point to one thing? It’s electrification.

I’ve told this story before, but it’s still relevant: I was at a state park a few years ago and saw a giant BMW some-stupid-alphanumeric crossover parked in an EV charging spot. As I was walking toward it I wondered who I could report it to because the lot was full and I assumed the BMW driver was just a rich, entitled asshole who decided they were more important than EV drivers. Then I realized it was actually plugged in. I had no idea BMW was making plug-in anything at that point (I think the i3 and i8 were already dead), much less a big crossover. I’m not sure anyone else even had a big plugin crossover.

They’ve been quietly electrifying their lineup (a bit like Toyota) while everyone was focused on the companies like Tesla and Ford making big EV splashes. This has left them perfectly positioned to take advantage of the pivot to hybrids that seems to be happening.

Nsane In The MembraNe
Nsane In The MembraNe
8 months ago
Reply to  Ben

My dad’s X5 50e has averaged something like 40 MPG once everything is factored in. For a 5,000 pound Luxobarge it’s damn impressive, and he drives hard. I’m sure you could have those boats at 50 MPG plus no problem.

Do I love the fact that everyone has a 5,000 pound boat? No. Would I rather those 5,000 pound boats be capable of moving around on electricity and sip fuel? You bet! My whole spiel with hybrids/electrification in general is simple…let’s not write off the good to try to chase perfection.

Kldfgnjsj
Kldfgnjsj
8 months ago

Which states will ban (B)EVs? I’m going to guess Texas, Louisiana, Georgia, Alabama, Florida, and a good portion of the the mid-west, stopping at Illinois/Michigan. If any of them actually put pen to paper on it, this political football thing is going to turn into a political dump truck.

BMW and the other high end OEMs seem so out of reach that they’d probably look at me like some low class consumption slave. The only one of those brands that I feel wouldn’t shoe me out with a broom would be Lamborghini, as they seem like they can still be cool without being up their own butts about it.

Kldfgnjsj
Kldfgnjsj
8 months ago
Reply to  Kldfgnjsj

Just the red ones 😉 I would say a much lower chance of Florida since they have a lot of folks using them there already, but given the drama between the governor and Disney, I honestly don’t know what to think.

Kldfgnjsj
Kldfgnjsj
8 months ago
Reply to  Kldfgnjsj

I tend to take a “prepare for the worst, hope for the best” approach to politics, but I won’t go any further on it here to preserve good discourse on automotive topics. I merely thought that given BEVs are a popular complaint that it might spur literal action. Most people were opposed to the TikTok ban, but it seemed to be getting closer to being law. Something, something, out of touch, stones + glass house.

Protodite
Protodite
8 months ago
Reply to  Kldfgnjsj

Not to mention it was started by Disney, who knew they could win the PR campaign, and also allowed them to hide really disappointing earnings numbers

Drive By Commenter
Drive By Commenter
8 months ago
Reply to  Kldfgnjsj

Two of the poorest and unhealthiest states refusing tailpipe emissions reduction and more federal largesse in the form of EV tax credits because “freedum”? Yep, that tracks.

Nsane In The MembraNe
Nsane In The MembraNe
8 months ago

I don’t think I’m telling you anything you didn’t know already but those two things tend to go hand in hand

Aaron
Aaron
8 months ago
Reply to  Kldfgnjsj

I think Texas is pretty safe from that. As moronic and sophistic as certain political elements in that state can be, their massive wind/solar power generation capacity put them in a pretty good position for benefit from BEVs. Then you got all those pictures of Elon Musk in a cowboy hat the Tesla and SpaceX presence in the state boosting their tech-cred.

Brian Ash
Brian Ash
8 months ago

Well more than half of BMWs sales in the US were SUVs, the X5 & X7 are the best in class options you can buy and in some cases cheaper than comparables, especially the bloated POS big 3 ones. Not sure if all the X’s are in the light truck category. Plus their us sales (um leases) of EVs was over 12%.

BMWs plan for ICE/Hybrid/EV was put in place long before most and was flexible to shift as needed, unlike all the others scrambling to get their shit together now.

Jonathan Green
Jonathan Green
8 months ago

“Why BMW Is The Only Luxury German Automaker Not Sucking Butt This Year”
Funny, they all look like they’ve been sucking butt…

A. Barth
A. Barth
8 months ago

Let’s dumpty dump like Shock G.

All right stop what you’re doin’
‘Cause we’re about to ruin
The auto journo style that you’re used to

We write funny
But yo, we’re makin’ punny, see
So you car folks, I hope you’re ready for we

So gather ’round
We’re the new crew in town
And our mantra is that rust is brown

We’ll drink up all the damn Malört ya got on your shelf
Buying crapcan hoopties is a cry for help…

Parsko
Parsko
8 months ago
Reply to  A. Barth

double bravo, I listened to this this morning, actually!!!!

Hoonicus
Hoonicus
8 months ago

Get Adrian or the bishop to re-work that top shot to remove the beaver face, maybe 90% reduction, something like the original 8 series would look 100% better.

Mr. Canoehead
Mr. Canoehead
8 months ago

Every time I go to my local Porsche dealer (admittedly, not often), they have almost nothing on the lot. You can blame it on the chips or the ports, but it has been like that for years. Any cars I want (911 T with manual trans) are factory order only with an 18-24 month delivery period, unless you want the one loaded 911 on the lot going for 50% over base price because of all the unnecessary options ($1000 carbon fiber shift knob) or an SUV.

Even the used CPO cars are sold before they arrive because the previous owner is waiting for their new car.

I’ve started looking at Corvettes.

Gee See
Gee See
8 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Canoehead

It has always been like that since the 993 days. Funnily enough even fashion brands like Hermes are emulating them.

Alexk98
Alexk98
8 months ago

I’m not in the BMW target demographic at the moment, but compared the Audi E-Tron lineup, and Mercedes widely panned EQ models, no wonder BMW is selling EVs well. They hit the nail on the head of what EV Luxury buyers want, the exact same model, but with motors and a battery instead of ICE power. The EQS is an atrocious and horrendous product for the money by all accounts, but the i7 seems genuinely decent, because it’s just a 7-series, but electric. The EQS looks like the ugliest bar of soap of all time, and there is no A8/S8 E-tron to even compete.

Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
8 months ago

I noticed a 7 series coming up on me in my rear view mirror when driving up to the eclipse the other day, and I immediately burst into laughter. Goddamn is that front end hideous.

My 5-year old daughter asked what I was laughing about, and I pointed to the 7er, now passing me. Her response “That’s not funny, that’s ugly.”

She’s got a point. And she didn’t even get to see the front of the car.

Rad Barchetta
Rad Barchetta
8 months ago

It would have been difficult to paint Huang as a technological neophyte or an irresponsible person.

I dunno, man. As an engineer myself, you’re right about the neophyte part, but “engineer” and “irresponsible” are definitely not mutually exclusive. I’ve done a lot of dumb stuff since I got my degree.

Stef Schrader
Stef Schrader
8 months ago
Reply to  Rad Barchetta

There are book smarts, and other smarts. Most of the engineers I know may or may not struggle with the latter.

Mr. Canoehead
Mr. Canoehead
8 months ago
Reply to  Rad Barchetta

True but “engineer/family man who works at Apple” looks far more responsible than “Hold my beer YouTuber guy” to a jury. One look at the widow and orphans and Tesla was going to lose big.

SNL-LOL Jr
SNL-LOL Jr
8 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Canoehead

Since YouTubers are a net deficit to humanity, if one bites the dust should the next of kin pay damage to Tesla instead?

changedmynameasIworkinadealershipandsomeofourbrandsarentgreat
changedmynameasIworkinadealershipandsomeofourbrandsarentgreat
8 months ago
Reply to  Rad Barchetta

I would also say that “allegedly felt comfortable enough to play a videogame” after putting on ‘Autopilot’ it would be very easy to paint him as irresponsible.

Stef Schrader
Stef Schrader
8 months ago

I mean, there’s a LOT of people out there with bad taste and/or vision impairments.

That being said, that 530e rental I had for the Lemons Rally kicked ass. My lone real complaint was an inconsistent pedal feel, but the rest of it? Comfortable, easy to use, easy on fuel and no hideous front-end treatment. Pretty much the ideal cross-country road trip car. I would not kick it out of my carport.

This is purely anecdotal, but I feel like I see more “normal” BMWs than I do the uglified sedans with big, stupid buckteeth. Some of those are legitimately ugly SUVs — like, my gosh, the X6 is one of the most ungainly vehicles I’ve ever seen in my life — but even that one seems relatively rare compared to, IDK, just a normal BMW SUV.

Anyway, I’m rooting for parsh. You know who makes cars I like to look at? Parsh. The 992 felt weirdly cheap on a few components, though, and maybe (probably not) they’ll take this as a cue to make more manual cars (I know, wishful thinking) or de-gigantify the 911 (also probably not). Look, HOPE IS DEAD. GIVE ME THIS ONE (er, technically two) PARSH THING[s].

Nsane In The MembraNe
Nsane In The MembraNe
8 months ago
Reply to  Stef Schrader

I too love Parsh, but Parsh is too expensive compared to Ze other Germans. You’re basically paying $20,000 more than an X5 for a similarly equipped Cayenne. For the price of a barebones, 4 cylinder Macan you can get an X3 M40i with God’s own engine, the B58, that will wipe the floor with the poor Parsh in performance and, somehow, fuel economy. Obviously Parsh has nothing to compete with things like the 3 and 5 series either.

Porsche also doesn’t run specials at all. They don’t have good lease deals and they won’t really ever run low APR financing deals or put money on hoods. BMW will do both those things. The average Parsh buyer pays cash, whereas probably 75% of BMWs are leased.

If I were looking for a $60,000 luxury car my heart would scream HELL YEAH BROTHER IT PARSH TIME but my wallet would probably drop me off on a BMW or Lexus lot depending on what I’m looking for. A fun daily? BMW. A luxury appliance? Lexus.

Stef Schrader
Stef Schrader
8 months ago

okay, but hear me out:

parsh cute

(the heart wants what it wants)

Last edited 8 months ago by Stef Schrader
Nsane In The MembraNe
Nsane In The MembraNe
8 months ago
Reply to  Stef Schrader

Oh you’ll get no argument from me, and I will inevitably wind up owning either an eclectic older Parsh or an incredibly base spec Macan or Cayenne or something eventually. But I want the Parsh tax to pls stop. Yesterday.

As I said in my other comment…let’s see the leases on the new Macan EV! I want frozen berry metallic for like $600 a month. Pls gib PARSH.

Last edited 8 months ago by Nsane In The MembraNe
My Goat Ate My Homework
My Goat Ate My Homework
8 months ago

Tesla settled because the facts looked bad for them, absolutely. Young successful family man drops his son off at day care and is commuting to his job at Apple when the Tesla Full Self Driving feature now know as FSD did some crazy shit and drove him into a barrier at 70MPH killing him.

They didn’t want the precedence and as long as they can keep paying people off they will. Except when the driver is doing something that makes them look bad to a jury, then they’ll just continue to litigate.

Robert L
Robert L
8 months ago

I gathered Tesla would have had a good chance of a Pyrrhic victory – they would have won because the dude was playing a video game when the car hit the barrier after all but the PR would have been a nightmare.

Frown Victoria
Frown Victoria
8 months ago

You couldn’t pay me to be seen in a modern BMW

Rad Barchetta
Rad Barchetta
8 months ago
Reply to  Frown Victoria

I hate them, too, but I’ve got a price and I’ll bet you do, too. As for being able to pay that price? Dead on. I’m not that rich.

Alexk98
Alexk98
8 months ago
Reply to  Frown Victoria

The worst game of would you rather:
A BMW i7 or a Mercedes EQS
The only winners? People who can’t see what’s going on.

Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
8 months ago
Reply to  Frown Victoria

But if you’re inside the BMW, you can’t see the outside of the BMW.

*rollsafe.gif*

Spikersaurusrex
Spikersaurusrex
8 months ago
Reply to  Frown Victoria

You could pay me to be seen in one. It wouldn’t even cost you much. I wouldn’t buy one though.

Nsane In The MembraNe
Nsane In The MembraNe
8 months ago
Reply to  Frown Victoria

Oh come on. Don’t act like you’d feel deep shame being seen in an M2, M5, Z4, etc. The beaver teeth grilles look absurd but they’re only on the 4 series, M3, 7 series, and IX.

MrAcoustics
MrAcoustics
8 months ago

I don’t feel bad for Audi, getting an allocation for any of their good stuff (RS) is like pulling teeth. I have had my deposit/spot in line for a year. Maybe build a few more so all of the people with deposits at dealers turn into real sales. You would think the RS stuff has a lot of profit margin built in and they would want to build as much to meet demand, but I guess not.

Drew
Drew
8 months ago

I wonder which state will be the first to ban EVs.

Wyoming already had a bill to do so, but they claimed it was only to prove a point and not something they actually wanted. Would be funny if they actually banned all EV and hybrid sales in their state and ended up with no new car sales in their state as a result (if everyone shifts to electrified, nobody’s going to bother making a straight gasser for one sparsely populated state).

Drive By Commenter
Drive By Commenter
8 months ago
Reply to  Drew

Eek, a state with only used car dealers.

Seems like BYD may get the Wyoming market to themselves.

Nathan
Nathan
8 months ago
Reply to  Drew

Everyone in Wyoming would start getting sweet no money down 12 month lease deals so the pre-owned gas car could then be sold in California.

TheHairyNug
TheHairyNug
8 months ago

Positive reinforcement for BMW to continue making ugly af vehicles

My Goat Ate My Homework
My Goat Ate My Homework
8 months ago
Reply to  TheHairyNug

The last 2 new ones I saw on the road I almost did a spit take. One becuase of the nostrils/buck teeth. Looks even more bad in person. The second was an M something another SUV. It looked like it had some sort of body kit from the 90s. Even my wife was like wtf is that… I had to explain that some people like that sort of thing.

Last edited 8 months ago by My Goat Ate My Homework
Angrycat Meowmeow
Angrycat Meowmeow
8 months ago

The company’s big volume Q5 was down 33% Y-O-Y, and the Q7 was down 35%.

The B10 generation A/Q/S/RS5 is imminent, and the Q7 is also coming up on its 3rd refresh/facelift. I believe both of these are due within the next year or so. The B9 and 4M platforms are pretty long in the tooth, coming out in 16/17 depending on region, and they’re not really competitive anymore tech wise. People are holding out for the next gen or facelift. I’m sure the Q8, which is just a Q7 with a fashionable “sportback”, is eating plenty of Q7 sales too.

IRegertNothing, Esq.
IRegertNothing, Esq.
8 months ago

“BMW Is The Only Luxury German Automaker Not Sucking Butt This Year”

Kind of ironic, given that their new grill design looks like it could accept an ample set of butt cheeks.

TOSSABL
TOSSABL
8 months ago

You worded that much more elegantly than I would have.
something along the lines of, ‘Well, the front already looks like Ass…’

Drew
Drew
8 months ago
Reply to  TOSSABL

They’re embracing the strategy of being the butt to avoid sucking the butt.

Stef Schrader
Stef Schrader
8 months ago
Reply to  Drew

Okay, but Chuck Tingle (author of such classics as Pounded In the Butt by My Own Butt) would absolutely write the hell out of Being the Butt to Suck the Butt.

Last edited 8 months ago by Stef Schrader
Drew
Drew
8 months ago
Reply to  Stef Schrader

Are we sure Chuck hasn’t already written that? It does sound like one of his titles.

Stef Schrader
Stef Schrader
8 months ago
Reply to  Drew

I am not lol

Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
8 months ago
Reply to  Stef Schrader

There’s something about seeing these words in italics that makes me laugh.

Stef Schrader
Stef Schrader
8 months ago

I got that dawg in me (and by dawg, I mean many school years of writing in MLA style).

VanGuy
VanGuy
8 months ago

I don’t get why people hate it so much. I think they look fine. Distinctive, sure, but not bad. And being recognizable is a big part of marketing, isn’t it?

The NSX Was Only in Development for 4 Years
The NSX Was Only in Development for 4 Years
8 months ago
Reply to  VanGuy

The tombstone grills do look considerably better in person, which, I think, is due to automotive press photos almost always being shot from ground level for some reason. The iX and i7 are awful, unfortunately.

Rad Barchetta
Rad Barchetta
8 months ago
Reply to  VanGuy

If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.

D0nut
D0nut
8 months ago

Single point of reference. I freaking love my BMW iX. I got an M60 used for a great price a few months ago. It is by FAR the nicest, most comfortable car I’ve ever driven.

Mechjaz
Mechjaz
8 months ago
Reply to  Matt Hardigree

There was a guy that used to come to karaoke at a local bar. This guy had a water bottle, and on that bottle was a sticker. The sticker said “Legalize eating ass.”

I hope he’s doing alright and didn’t get hit by a new BMW, in which case the ass would have eaten him.

Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
8 months ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

There’s a Yakov Smirnoff joke in there somewhere.

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