I don’t have all of the answers. The truth is, I have very few of them, but I’m not concerned. I have a backup.
Last week, I suggested that affordable, comfortable, and family-friendly convertibles would almost certainly return to the marketplace and offered some possible solutions. Were these the best solutions? Perhaps not, but I know that you, the most insightful commenters on all of the internet, are bound to have the answer to whatever automotive question that I pose indirectly, and the comments section of the post had what might truly be the key to the convertible conundrum
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The Dropping Of The Drop Top
As a healthy Autopian, I should be excited by some 1000-horsepower supercar being 0.2 seconds faster than another supercar with a mere 800 under the hood, but I really don’t give a shit. For some reason, I’m much more obsessed with understanding what cars regular people choose to spend their hard-earned cash on. Well, what normal regular people want to purchase, not folks like me who want to buy, say, an electric green Lamborghini Espada that doesn’t run or this cool-ass Lancia Beta sedan with U.S.-spec battering-ram bumpers.
I still stand by my statement that the demand will not disappear for cars with roofs that disappear; it’s just that there aren’t enough products today to make affordable and useable ragtops possible. The choices for drop-top fans today are about as limited as they’ve been since the late seventies when manufacturers thought they were about to be banned. There are high-dollar fancy coupes on one end with limited usable space:
On the other end of the open car spectrum, there are rugged, tire-and-wind-noise Jeeps and Broncos which are rather punishing as daily transportation. Stop pretending that you’re so hardcore in the school pickup lane! You aren’t David Tracy, my friend! I bet you’ve never even had trench foot for Chrissake.
Ultimately, neither of these convertible options above are a practical solution for the average family. The first decade of my life was spent riding around in the 1965 Ivy Green Mustang convertible my dad bought new before I was born. The ‘Stang then was much more of a sedan than the sports coupe it is today, a far more practical choice for buyers. With a decent back seat and a trunk, this worked fine as a family car for almost all of our tasks (until the trunk floor – which was also the top of the gas tank – started to rot away, that is). With Ford’s expansive option list, you could have ordered an example of a Mustang convertible to fit almost any budget, and these drop tops were everywhere.
Sixty years on, with the near-death of sedans, SUV crossovers are now the go-to for many yet the few crossover convertibles offered over the years like the Murano CrossCabriolet have flopped.
I tried my best to make a crossover SUV solution that did work at least a little better visually. Understandably, no one seemed to go for my failed interpretations on a late model example of the latest Murano:
The complaints about the few crossover SUV attempted are well-known and valid. The tall body section of an SUV makes a convertible version look rather dumpy; for some reason, the swoopy shapes of these crossovers compound the issue. Relatively high cost and the typical loss of cargo space from the conversion are the nails in the coffin of the idea.
Judging from the comments in the post, it sounds like the convertible the market needs has to be:
- Based on one of the most popular and affordable car-like vehicles out there
- Not particularly tall and/or be a relatively elemental “boxy” machine
- Offer a decent amount of cargo space with or without the roof or top in place
Whatever fits those parameters would be The Answer, but I’d mentally moved onto the next project at that point. However, you commenters just never quit, and you’ve always got the solution that I’m too dense to see sitting right in front of me.
Let’s Try This Again
There were a lot of great responses, but one that caught my eye was from commenter Canopysaurus:
Dear God: that’s the answer! No, not the way-too-niche Santa Cruz, but the top-selling unibody pickup from Ford, the Maverick! I was looking at typical sport utility crossovers and totally ignoring the unique vehicle that’s a far better fit for the Sawzall treatment.
With many strikingly new kinds of cars like the Fiero (that I just wrote about) and the AMC Pacer, sales crater after the first year when everyone that wanted it has already bought one. The Maverick is the opposite; a juggernaut that won’t stop. It’s a truck for people who never thought they’d want a pickup; supposedly over 65 percent of purchases are “conquest” sales, meaning the buyers used to drive a car or SUV of a different type and often from another brand. Soon the competition will offer their own interpretations of the unibody pickup, so Ford will almost certainly be looking for ways to stay a step ahead.
Wait: aren’t convertible pickup trucks an idea that historically hasn’t worked? The only ones you can probably think of are the short-lived Dodge Dakota convertible and maybe the much-lambasted Chevy SSR.
There have also been some recent semi-one-off conversions of pickup trucks that sadly look a bit like backyard custom vehicles that had their roofs cut off as best they could:
So the Maverick is a non-starter as well? In my opinion, no. As a five-seat smaller unibody pickup the Maverick is hardly the same thing as any of the above examples; it’s really almost unfair to call it a “truck”, and it’s not exactly an SUV. Still, the Maverick ticks every box on the list of the Ideal Vehicle To Decapitate above, right?
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- It’s an ultra-popular unibody pickup for non-truck people with a low starting price
- Almost in a class by itself with strong year-over-year sales growth
- As boxy as a Rubik’s cube, and all the better for it
- With a covered pickup truck bed, it’s got more cargo space than even your uncle’s 1975 Impala
All right, now that we’ve got the perfect car to make into the affordable family convertible, I can see at least two different approaches to making an open version of Ford’s everyone-truck.
The Fac-Tree Ragtop
In the eighties, car manufacturers realized that convertibles were not going to be banned by government rollover standards as they had feared in the disco era. Most of them chose to toss their hats in the ring by offering “factory” convertibles that, in many cases, were steel-roofed cars modified by outside suppliers. American Specialty Corporation (ASC), originally founded as American Sunroof Corporation, was a popular choice for automakers looking to convertibilize their offerings.
That’s probably not an option for the Maverick convertible. The 1961-67 suicide-door Lincoln Continental is arguably the only really successful-looking four-door convertible, and with the unibody Maverick, it just isn’t an option unless you do something strange with a giant ugly “roll hoop” connecting the B-pillars to make the frameless door windows work. For that reason, I’d rather go with a good ol’ two-door.
No folding retractable hardtop; let’s keep an inexpensive fabric roof. I’m even thinking of having a removable snap-on “boot” to cover the folded top instead of a more complicated motorized cover that lifts up to keep it economical. A hoop behind the rear seat would also help with rigidity; again, no fancy pop-up rollover protection systems as on that Murano CrossCabriolet to add weight, cost, and complexity.
I’ve put the CHMSL on the tailgate, though we might need an additional one somewhere at the base of the top or on the “roll hoop” (or the CHMSL wraps over the top of the tailgate so it’s still visible when the gate is down). Look at that pickup bed! Here’s something that would drive like a car, carry as much as a little truck (because that’s what it is), and just happen to be a convertible.
Of course, making these new body stampings and other parts won’t be cheap, and like the Murano CrossCabriolet the price of the Maverick convertible will likely be far steeper than the standard car. Still, even if the modifications double the cost of the base $24,000 Maverick there’s nothing out there to touch it at the price for practical family fun in the sun.
What if you’re on a tighter budget and want something that opens to the sky but not open your wallet as much? Maybe here the aftermarket can come into play.
The Flip Top Truck
I’m not a huge fan of exposed window and door frames on a convertible but removing them is one of the biggest challenges and costs of making an open car, and more than half the time that’s the part that outside suppliers get wrong and cause you to come out of a car wash with a wet shirt and pants.
What if we found a relatively inexpensive way to get most of the roof itself to easily go away on the Maverick, even if it means keeping the sides of the thing intact? The answer might be the Flip Top. The center part of the roof and rear backlight are sawed out of the Maverick and replaced by plastic components with a two-stage opening process.
First, the section over the driver and front passenger can flip back and open, locking in place.
Next, you’d have to fold forward or remove your bed cover. Then, release a few catches and the whole rear section of the roof including the backlight and folded front section of roof folds back, around and into the open bed.
There are hydraulic struts that would either act as dampers so that the whole business doesn’t come crashing down, and help counterbalance it as you lift the thing back up again. If you wanted to spend a few more bucks, those hydraulic struts could raise and lower the whole business from the driver’s seat. You’d need to move cargo out of the bed to do this but if it’s not too heavy you could put it right back in again after the roof is down.
Yes, you’ve still got all the side frame still there, but roll down all the windows and you’ll certainly have a full open-air experience.
I don’t know what the cost of this system would be, but it’s got to be the least expensive way to get the roof to disappear on a nice day without having to lift it off manually. You could see an outside supplier easily doing this work and offering the converted Mavericks exclusively through a Ford dealership that isn’t afraid of selling custom products with a full warranty. There’s a Ford retailer in Southern California that did this with customized vans, Pintos, Mustangs and such in the seventies, but I’ve forgotten their name. Maybe they’d do it?
The Comments Section Comes Through Again
I’m frequently shocked at what I see in website comment sections. Are people really this rude? How do they hold jobs with that spelling and grammar? Not at The Autopian, though. Here, the comment section is often even more fun and insightful than the post itself. Who needs multi-million-dollar focus groups?
I’m glad that readers haven’t written off drop tops just yet, and very thankful for their solutions. Life is short, so we should have at least a few reasonable choices of open cars to help us enjoy it. Right now, the wall thermometer says that it’s 20 degrees outside my house; if you live down south and you’ve got a convertible, put the top down on your car just for us poor saps up here within hailing distance of the Canadian border waiting for spring.
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Why not try a solution like the Fiat 500 convertible (or, for that matter, the Smart convertible) — you can roll back a canvas roof that then lowers vertically. In fact, because the front of the Maverick’s bed doesn’t have to move, the rear window could stay glass and lower into the divider with the canvas roof stacked on top.
Love the completely roof less version!
The only car I’ve owned that I’d consider buying again is the VW Eos. Loved it, until the engine gave up due to severe rust on the cam shaft. It was especially great any time I had to pull a trailer, and a roof less Maverick could be another practical convertible.
There have been plenty of four door pillarless hardtops, even pillarless hardtop wagons, so getting the windows figured out should be as simple as a trip to the filing cabinet. I vaguely remember that there was some trick with the motion of the rear window regulator.
A canvas or otherwise removable top with fixed door and window frames is just an oversized sunroof.
As a side note, what about those people who drive around in convertibles with the top down and front windows down but the rear windows up? Eww.
On many convertible cars (Porsche 996 and even LeBarons) the regulators on those windows break before the others.
If it’s anything like my truck, the first time I’d put the roof down my interior would be completely full of pine needles and dirt blowing in from the bed!
Ha, I’ve had my F150 for years and just discovered that if you open the sliding rear window while driving, it sucks all of the leaves and crap out of the bed directly into the cab! Fun times.
Been there my friend.
I swear I keep the bed of my truck cleaner than the interior of my of my cars due to this issue.
Semi-serious question- can you get a screen for that rear window? Would you buy one?
Nooo please don’t
I wanted a 4 seasons convertible so bad I almost accepted buying a new wrangler. Couldn’t stomach the reliability concerns, the manual transmission issue (at the time) and the paint issue. Ended up with a ’22 tacoma instead for responsibilities sake. A more convertible surf concept would probably convince me to trade up.
I do love me a good winter drive with the top down and heater blasting.
The Wrangler Islander is not surf-y enough for you?
I wish T-tops were still a thing
Whatever happened to the cheap manual Pop out sun roof for less than $200 installed? I had one in a Spectrum it was great for delivery of newspapers
Every person I’ve ever known with T tops has a leaking roof. Even my friend with a 2015 Wrangler with the removable roof sections had leaks from the factory.
And so do convertibles, in my experience. (Triumph car and MG and my dad had a Willys* M38A1). My friends’ t-tops were dryer.
*sometimes pronounced Will-ess. I’ve seen promotional videos where they use both pronunciations. Apparently the Willys family said Will-ess
Every single Wrangler leaks. It’s a standard factory setting. My 2015 leaks whether I have the hard top on or the soft top. I’ve replaced seals in multiple places with no improvement. So I pulled the carpet and just leave it that way.
I have a ’23 Mav Hybrid and would TOTALLY volunteer it as a test subject if ASC or someone wanted to give it a shot (if I get it back). I’m thinking a Renault R5 “LeCar” style canvas snapper would do the trick!
I’m not convinced that what a drop-top buyer on a budget needs is a new car – you can get a lightly used, high trim Ecoboost Mustang in the low 20,000’s. Mine came in at $23,000 after taxes and a rustbucket trade in. If you aren’t lusting for more horsepower than you can use off the track it’s a great four seat option that can carry a very reasonable amount of cargo if you load the back seats through the roof. An extended warranty isn’t too expensive and they’re a breeze to work on yourself with a mature design.
I have the basket VW from 1986, the Del Sol from 1994 and am looking at the Fiat 500C. So from the basket handle to the removable steel top to having a canvas top roll down and the sides stay up. I therefore heartily endorse the Maverick with the sides in place option. After all it is about the wind, sun and view and structural rigidity is a thing.
PS I live in Wisconsin so I am surely an optimist
Fellow WI resident here, can confirm optimism is a necessary commodity. It’s cold outside!
Damn cold. Thanking the gods of snow for holding off for awhile. If it gets above 35 bicycling to the lakefront from Glendale on the path. Also electric socks and gloves are effi g amazing
I think the folding roof is brilliant. I might also suggest something like the Del Sol Trans-Top. Even the manual top of the Del Sol is smartly packaged.
I feel like the roof of the Maverick could borrow some Honda inspiration. Just slide it backwards and turn it into a tonneau cover. How hard could it be?
https://youtu.be/FPNYQP2NBQ0?si=iYtTSE9fM1pfmNo_
I’m sure that Ford could build something like Honda did with the Japanese Del Sol and it too would never break down and cost thousands to redo/replace. /s
I saw this and asked myself: how about a Subaru Forester softop?
Imagine Subaru’s advertising the best way to experience the outdoors whilst your car is open-topped?
Is it a way to bring back convertibles?
Maybe expand it to offer a bug-net top option.
I see your flip top and simply suggest using the Bronco roof back to the roll bar and put a rear window in the roll bar hoop at the back. Maybe even consider this for the sport versions so they stop losing the luster of owning one of those.
The doors should be lengthened on the 2 door one. Those short doors and all that space between the door and wheel well make it look awkward.
The doors actually are lengthened, by around at least 10 inches. They look short because there’s a pickup bed at the back. I’m hesitant to make them longer or they’ll be tough to open in a parking lot.
omg one of my first cars was a 1983 Olds Delta 88 2-door…impossible to get out of in many parking lots!
What a coincidence. My first car was also an ’83 Delta 88 2-door and parking lots were, indeed, a huge pain. It wasn’t the best car either. It was always a pain to start in the cold and started smoking at 50k. By 60k the smoke was thick and black and it was hard to start in any weather.
Given how easy tall trucks are to flip, I prefer either a steel roof or at least a full, stout, integrated rollbar ala the Jeeps.
I am perfectly happy with my pair of nicely close to the ground convertible coupes. Not everything needs to do everything, which always means they are good at nothing.
I would say the Maverick is pretty low to the ground, but I also would say I have seen very few trucks flip on their lid. more than a few stubby SUV’s sure, but I can’t say that I have ever seen a fullsize pickup on it’s lid. and we all know they are taller by the day.
You must not get out much. 🙂 In the past couple of years I have seen at least four. Most spectacularly, a guy pulling out of a business and cutting across two lanes of traffic right in front of me. He did not see the dude zooming past me on my left up the left turn lane, he never even looked. Got broadsided and it rolled right over. Upside-down in the ditch is a regular occurrence here. And of course, even if they land on their wheels, the evidence of the roll is pretty clear.
Things the Maverick needs more than a drop top:
another 18″ of bed
hybrid and AWD available in the same truckPHEV version
edit: I see they added #2 for the 2025 model year
Plug-in Hybrid without additional cost.
A rear seat bulkhead cove for longer objects would be good too.
$5,000-$10,000 worth of batteries for free, can’t see why ford is sleeping on such a brilliant business decision.
Not suggesting adding range or anymore batteries, just a way to charge the existing batteries at night if depleted so you can go further in the morning before kicking on the gas motor. I have driven many of them, they do drive little bit on electric only.
I don’t know about the Maverick, but toyota’s regular hybrids have do an EV mode, and the manual states “up to 1 kilometer” I can’t imagine a pickup truck is better, but even if it’s 4 times as much it’s still useless.
Ahh, I see, yeah I guess I figured it was likely to be 20-30 miles full EV, but I do see that Plug-in Hybrid by definition leads to more batteries to get to the range.
FYI, the hybrid is now available with AWD and the tow package for 2025
Modify the “Flip Top” by making the rear window retractable (could also offer that option on a standard Maverick as well, to defray costs) and then offer the option of hard or soft “targa” top sections.
Targa or T-Top panels that bolt onto integrated bedside frame rails. Leave the B Pillar as a targa bar, keep the framed doors and 4 door, and voila.
The Maverick facelift hasn’t warmed on me at all. Still looks tragic.
More tragic is that they lost the analog gauges and button HVAC controls.
I have to believe this is the trend because cheap chinese tablets screwed tot he dash are more cost effective. If that is not the case then, I don’t understand the change either.
Well, Ford does have a Bronco soft top, so at least they have engineers in house that could do it to the Maverick. Come on Ford!
First you tell us the Mercedes-Benz CLE is too small to be practical.
Then you tell us that your Dad’s 65 Mustang was the right size and quite practical.
Look at the specs again: The new Mercedes-Benz is larger in every interior dimension than your Dad’s Mustang – including trunk space (when the roof is up)
And the prior E Class Cabriolet is approx the same size – it had the largest interior space of all 6 MB convertibles offered just a few short years ago.
So the answer is a pre-owned E Class Cabriolet.
Oh – but we want new. And maybe a bit more economical to run and maintain.
Seems to me that hacking a roof off a two-door Maverick is a half-step at best.
What we really need is to do what Ford did back in 1964:
Take the practical vehicle (Which was the Falcon) and do a complete rebody (which they already kinda did with the Escape/Bronco Sport to create the Maverick – Right?)
Also note that the Maverick is about the same size as a 1949-’51 Ford – but a bit taller and with a longer wheelbase.
Remember the Ford Fifty Nine Concept? I do.
Now look at the ’49-’51 Fords again.
Adjust to fit.
Make a Fordor sedan and a Tudor hardtop (Ford nomenclature was cute back then) bodyshell – just different doors and rear quarter panels – and a proper enclosed trunk (the kind that has a lid that lifts up and closes down)
Then derive the convertible from the Tudor.
Oh look at that – Now we have an entire family of CARS!
(Did you want a cute little Figaro but it was too small? Now you can have a FORD!)
Right idea, wrong German car. 3-series vert is the answer, I’ve owned 3 of them.
Still a bit small in back for a family car, but give me a manual E46 convertible in Orientblau with tan seats plus staggered Type 68 rims and I’ll tell the kids to shut the hell up and find a way to fit.
Lol, I have that exact car right now, 330ci Orient Blau, 5 speed manual, staggered Type 68s, except I have a black interior (I did put some M6 seats up front.) Plus I have the rare color-matched hardtop! My previous e36 verts had the tan interior. Since I live in eastern NC, the black interior was at first a concern, but after looking at cars for about 6 months, I eventually decided I’d rather get a black interior car in great condition over a tan one in worse condition.
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The good news is it’s actually not nearly as bad as I thought it would be. The seats actually don’t get scorching hot in the summer with the top down, except maybe at temps where I going to have the top up and the AC on anyway. They make it warmer inside in the spring and fall.
So here’s a design question for you. So I need to replace the top on my car. It had a hydraulic leak and it put a huge stain on the side of the top. It originally came with a black top. My choices are another black top, or a blue top, it’s a lighter blue than Orientblau. So if this was your Orientblau e46 vert, which color would you choose?
I’d really want a tan interior with a tan top, but if the inside is black I’d rather have a black top. The problem with a blue top is that the two blues often set my teeth on edge together- like one blue is too “cool” and the other too “warm” or something. Plus, Orientblau is essentially a black car until the sun hits it, right?
Yep, Orientblau can show a variety of shades between blue and black depending on the lighting.
So my white e36 (tan interior) came with a black top, and I switched it to a tan top. But I forgot about the black rub rails on the sides, and it never looked quite right with white, tan and black all visible. Then on the black e36 (also tan interior, black top) I originally was going to put the tan top on it, but after laying it on the car before installing it I changed my mind and put it on the white one.
Why was I buying so many tops? So the white car was my first e36, but it was a 318 with automatic. Fun to drive, but not fast. I found the black one (a 325 with a 5 speed) and bought it. I knew it needed a new top when I bought it. I had replaced the top on the white e36 (they aren’t quite as durable as the e46 tops, plus they have plastic rear windows that fade and eBay tops for these cars are pretty cheap) about 4 years prior, the top had a 5 year guarantee and one seam on it was starting to work loose. So I got a replacement black top under warranty, then bought a second tan top for the other car. Since neither car was perfect with the tan top, I chose it put it on the car I was selling (the white 318.) I will say the manual e36 top was the best maintenance wise, with the power e36 one the worst (it used gears that wore out, the e46 uses hydraulic that are easier to fix – unless you have a big leak in one certain area!)
A friend of mine with an old Olds Cutlass 455 asked me about top colors before. He was redoing the interior and top, so had choices about either color. He went with a white interior, black top. He was committed to the white interior) and I suggest a white top. He said the it gave the car 2 different ‘looks’ and after it was done I had to agree with him, it was better for the car to have a slightly different top up and top down look.
Looks like it is indeed bigger; seems like everything today is. Regardless, adjusted for inflation our Mustang was still under $40,000 so like half the price of the Benz so I was still spot on with the “too expensive” part.
I still wonder if SUVs with trunks will happen. We have those silly fastback sport utilities now so who knows what’s next.
Pre-Owned E Class Cabriolets generally run about 40% off new MSRP.
So for a $75K new MSRP, that’s @ $45,000 for a 3-4 year old car.
That’s a similar number to a new Mustang Convertible.
Newer 3/4 Series Cabriolets have hardtops that take up too much space in the trunk – and older ones are smaller than E Class Cabriolets.
SUVs with trunks have already happened:
AMC Eagle Sedan and CoupeSubaru Outback SedanI’m sure there are others I can’t think of this moment….
Just crank the heater, slap a hoodie on, and you’ll be fine for top down in the winter 🙂
But I think that concept is pretty slick, especially converting to a 2 door.
I’ve done this – but it took a sweater, a pea coat, a wool drivers cap, and gloves – with heat on full blast, seat heaters on, side windows up.
But that was a fun snow ride thru the Klamath-Siskyou Mountains!
1968 winter with my first car a Karman Ghia convertible rust bucket. Top down in an early snowfall, at night on Lake Drive with the brights on, perhaps stoned a little with a friend and it was glorious. We did not have heat, because it was a very old VW. We didn’t care.
Stepfather had a 68 Beetle Vert. I discovered that even with the top down, it effectively acted as a windblocker, and with the windows up and the heat on it was perfectly warm inside driving around town.
In my e36 BMW convertibles, I discovered a windblocker made driving with the top down comfortable with it being 10 degrees colder outside.
I had the wind locker in my Saab 900s convertible and could drive it for an extra month up here.
I feel. … heard.
What was that?
Is the Gladiator just lumped in with the Wrangler in this discussion?
The Dakota convertible would have been much more successful had it easier to spec it with 4×4 and the V8.
Also, Ford and softtops have had some leak issues lately.
Yes, the Gladiator is lumped in with a Wrangler. I could get my wife or mom to ride around in a Maverick but after a block in the Jeep they’d say forget it; I doubt that I’m alone.
You’re not alone. The wife always commented about how cute the Wranglers were, especially the green ones, and how maybe that’d be her next car and then we rented one on vacation and by the end of the 1st day she decided they were too rough to ride around in all the time. She still thinks they’re cute though.
Yes, and I have a customer that makes Bluetooth calls to me from his Wrangler. I have no idea what he’s saying most of the time.
My Lexus is250c Bluetooth. doesn’t work with the top down… well, it works, just not well. The system needs a good, well placed microphone
Have you driven a Gladiator? They are remarkably civilized. That loooong wheelbase does wonders for the ride, and with the hardtop on they are not loud at all, even on the highway. It’s still a TRUCK, but it’s not the Wrangler of old by any stretch.
I had one as a rental for a week and rather liked it, I just don’t have any use for one to justify buying one. But if they ever offered a 2dr with a more useful bed size I probably would not be able to resist the temptation.
How about t-tops and a roll down rear window? You could have a rack in the bed to store the top pieces when not in use. Or leave them at home and have a Viper-like snap on toupee for emergencies.
I like the T-top with a roll down rear window idea, but I would use a retractable fabric roof instead of removable panels. I think Jeep offers an option for a top like that on the Wrangler; something like that would be very cool on a Maverick.
Here for the Maverick Breezeway.
You could do that. If it’s real T Tops you’d have to remove the tops of the door frames which would take a lot of rework; also, with the T Top car I had it was more of a pain than I wanted to deal with removing them much of the time for short trips.
The Toyobaru twins already have frameless windows and a silhouette that’s just BEGGING for T-tops (and a rear hatch). It’s a shame they overlooked that possibility.
They could also build a hybrid Mustang, but they won’t, because they sell enough EVs to make the CAFE average work without it
Current Mustang is also way too small in the back seat area to be a real family car.
It’s workable, it just depends on how much you’re willing to compromise for style, which, looking around these days, is considerably less than in past decades