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Current Dodge Lessees Can Get $1000 Off The Electric Daytona, Plus The $7500 EV Rebate [Correction]

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It’s no secret that the new Charger Daytona EV is incredibly important for Dodge. The brand has marketed it as a purebred successor to the outgoing generation, or as pure as a Charger sans gasoline engine can be. There’s no V8 )or v-anything) to be spec’d under the hood, but at least you get simulated exhaust noises and a subwoofer to emulate the rumble of a muscle car. And if that’s not enough to lure you to your local Dodge dealer, perhaps a four-figure (and not too far from five) buying incentive will do the trick – provided you’re currently leasing a Dodge something.

According to Cars Direct, the new Daytona EV is officially part of a loyalty discount program. Current Dodge lessees will receive $1,000 off the new coupe or sedan when they lease either. Keep in mind that Daytona EV is potentially eligible for a $7,500 federal tax credit too. That means that those interested could end up with $8,500 off of this new electric Charger.

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Dodge says that the new Charger will start at $59,595 before a $1,995 destination fee. That figure also doesn’t include whatever dealer markup one might find in their local area. The two-door coupe version of the Charger is due later this year while the four-door sedan will begin production in 2025.

Dodge Charger Daytona 4 Door 2025 Rear Three Quarter.a21235c2

While Dodge has announced pricing, it hasn’t announced any details surrounding lease financing, terms, or conditions. That’s important info because these discounts only apply when the Charger EV is a lease. It’s also noteworthy that this new $1,000 loyalty discount isn’t advertised by Dodge. Eligible customers will evidently get an email with a bonus cash coupon.

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Those who want to buy the car outright won’t be eligible for either discount as of this writing. That’s because the Charger itself doesn’t meet the requirements of the Inflation Reduction Act to qualify. At the same time, a loophole in that act allows most EVs to qualify when leased. That’s how this particular deal works. Notably, state and energy company incentives could drive the total price even lower as we’ve seen on some cars in states like Colorado.

2024 Dodge Charger Daytona Scat Pack, Shown In Redeye Exterior C

Considering just how early we are into the launch of the Daytona EV, it’s likely a good idea to be patient. Beyond the potential for markups, there’s no word on how these cars drive or how they are to live with. On top of that, the loyalty discount runs through March 31, 2025 so other discounts, potentially more lucrative ones, could pop up between now and then.

2024 Dodge Charger Daytona Scat Pack, Shown In Triple Nickel.

As a reminder, the new Charger Daytona EV comes with a 400-volt dual-motor system and standard all-wheel drive. The base model, dubbed the R/T, makes 496 horsepower. Dodge will also offer a Scat Pack trim with up to 670 horsepower and a 0-60 mph time of 3.3 seconds. Both trims get the fancy (and very controversial) Fratzonic exhaust sound system.

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Gas-powered versions of the Charger are also coming but not until next year. When they do arrive, they’ll bring with them straight-six Hurricane engines and exactly zero EV discount opportunities.

2024 Dodge Charger Daytona Scat Pack, Shown In Triple Nickel.

Interested parties should contact their local dealer and maybe even check out the online configurator. It’s the only one we’ve ever seen that allows potential buyers to see what it’s like to get locked in the trunk of a car. Really, it lets you do that. Go check our coverage  here and tell us if you think the electric Charger Daytona is more interesting with a $8,500 discount.

[Update: The initial headline stated that Dodge was giving $8500 to Charger owners. In fact, $7500 is coming from the government. The initial headline was misleading and inaccurate. We’ll do better in the future. -DT].

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Turbotictac
Turbotictac
1 month ago

Crack Pipe

Highland Green Miata
Highland Green Miata
1 month ago

Dodge will not pay. Stellantis will pay $1000. Taxpayers pay $7500.

David Greenwood
David Greenwood
1 month ago

Yes, whats the deal with this headline?

Blahblahblah123
Blahblahblah123
1 month ago

For freak sake. The headline is so ridiculously misleading. Dodge is only giving a $1000 discount to current lease customers. That is it. Nothing more. The remaining $7500 is rebate available to ALL EVs out there that meet North American content rules.
So no. Dodge is not desperately offering an $8500 discount to try and drive sales. They are offering $1000. End of story.
I’m becoming concerned that The Autopian is going down the rabbit hole of click bait crap like Jalopnik did. Besides this article, I’m wary of the numerous Scout articles exclaiming the scout starts at $50,000. No, no it does not. That is after getting the $7500 tax rebate IF (and this is a big IF) you qualify for it. The Scout is a $60,000 truck.
Suggestion. How about some editorial standards on this? Most if not all of the other EV articles correctly state the MSRP first and foremost and then later say what you pay IF you qualify for the tax rebate. These articles also tend to moan and groan about said MSRP being too darn high. Yet someone the Scout has gotten quite the pass despite having a target $60,000 MSRP for the bone stock model without all the cool toys like 35 inch wheels. I hear regular complaints that the Jeep Wrangler when optioned out is easily over $60,000. Oddly, the Scout starts at $60,000 BEFORE being optioned out…. yet it is somehow an amazing value. Sigh.

Lava5.0
Lava5.0
1 month ago

Agreed. This was severely misleading based on autopian history. I went into this thinking Dodge was going to do something cool to “prove” how good their new charger is and instead it’s 1k off and use this government program. I honestly expect better

Peter Vieira
Peter Vieira
1 month ago
Reply to  Lava5.0

See my reply above. Short version: I totally blew it re: making sure the headline matched the story. I assure you, no one let it go knowing the disconnect was there.

Peter Vieira
Peter Vieira
1 month ago

The headline is being fixed (if it isn’t already) and was never intended to mislead. I misunderstood the nature of the $8,500 discount when refining the headline with the gang, who were counting on me to know what I was talking about.

I did not look carefully enough at the story and did not register that the headline was wrong. That’s unacceptable, but not intentionally nefarious. I apologize for the error.

Col Lingus
Col Lingus
1 month ago

Headline reminds me of one of those TV ads that promise to save you 1K on leaf protection for your gutters.

“Call now and save before this stupendous fucked offer goes away forever!”

Kiss my ass Carlos…

Peter Vieira
Peter Vieira
1 month ago
Reply to  Col Lingus

I really goofed up that headline. It’s incorrect! You can save $8,500, but it’s not all in Dodge dollars.

Col Lingus
Col Lingus
1 month ago
Reply to  Peter Vieira

No harm, no foul amigo!

JDE
JDE
1 month ago

Exactly how much later in this year can they get? geez

This is all sort of a bad start on these things.

Healpop
Healpop
1 month ago

I think that’s the first time I’ve seen the pricing for this thing. Are they out of their minds? $60k? You could get the old one for a bit more than half that. I can’t imagine anyone who’s leasing a current charger will be interested in an EV version at twice the price.

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
1 month ago
Reply to  Healpop

The gas versions are also going to be quite a bit of a price jump over the 2023 models, to the tune of $10,000 or more, due to AWD-only and standard turbos

Healpop
Healpop
1 month ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

Insanity. I don’t understand the business case for this. Who’s going to drop 3 series money on a dodge that doesn’t have a huge V8?

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
1 month ago
Reply to  Healpop

A base model full size RWD hatchback with a buttery smooth naturally aspirated straight six and decent fuel economy would be compelling in the low to mid 30s, but Stellantis isn’t going to make that version

Along with Martin, Dutch Gunderson, Lana and Sally Decker
Along with Martin, Dutch Gunderson, Lana and Sally Decker
1 month ago

Does this platform allow for the eventual integration of a gas or hybrid powertrain? Because Stellantis seriously missed the boat on the EV thing.

Vic Vinegar
Vic Vinegar
1 month ago

It is going to have their I-6 in it at some point. EV is coming first though.

JDE
JDE
1 month ago
Reply to  Vic Vinegar

you missed the question. He is asking why this is not being offered in Hybrid form. Specifically I imagine something akin to the RamCharger Truck setup, which is still not available BTW.

This is correct thinking as Carlos completely failed and decided to nearly tank the company completely by going cold turkey on the Gas addiction of the Dodge products.

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
1 month ago
Reply to  JDE

I believe the lack of a hybrid is for the same reason Ford doesn’t make a hybrid Mustang, they’re expecting to sell enough pure EVs to meet their CAFE numbers, so the extra R&D for a hybrid isn’t needed, the ICE versions can be left as relatively thirsty with no penalties

JDE
JDE
1 month ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

thing is, Ford made the Mach E a mustang deriviative to avoid killing the real Mustang. Cheap (relatively) fun coupes are hard to sell without a rumbly V8. at least for now. Ford arguably has had one of the better Turbo sixes available in RWD format yet there is not one of those available in the Mustang chassis. Even at SEMA the big F150 announcement was the FP700S. Ford supplied 700HP v8 sport truck. I don’t care if they manage to make a 3.0 six cylinder make 700 hp. The V8 and surpercharger whine is what sells that thing.

Harvey Firebirdman
Harvey Firebirdman
1 month ago

Just waiting for that Stellantis quality to kick in and we see headlines or comments of why won’t my new EV Charger charge?

Cyko9
Cyko9
1 month ago

The Hornet has been a rocky road.

Scoutdude
Scoutdude
1 month ago

Come on you guys are better than that. They are offering $1000 loyality bonus and if leased the car qualifies for $7500 federal “tax credit” that isn’t coming out of their pocket.

Andreas8088
Andreas8088
1 month ago
Reply to  Scoutdude

Yeah, the headline is….. inaccurate at best.

Peter Vieira
Peter Vieira
1 month ago
Reply to  Andreas8088

That’s on me.

Mechjaz
Mechjaz
1 month ago
Reply to  Scoutdude

This.

Come on guys.

Peter Vieira
Peter Vieira
1 month ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

Not guys! Just me 🙁

Lockleaf
Lockleaf
1 month ago
Reply to  Scoutdude

Seconded. Thirded. Fourthed. Whatever. Autopian, please be better than BS headlines. To be clear, this headline is BS.

Peter Vieira
Peter Vieira
1 month ago
Reply to  Lockleaf

It’s all on me Lockleaf!

The headline is being fixed (if it isn’t already) and was never intended to mislead. I misunderstood the nature of the $8,500 discount when refining the headline with the gang, who were counting on me to know what I was talking about. I did not look carefully enough at the story and did not register that the headline was wrong. That’s unacceptable, but not intentionally nefarious. I apologize for the error.

Matt Hardigree
Matt Hardigree
1 month ago
Reply to  Peter Vieira

Not JUST you, I didn’t read the piece just saw the pitch and fired off a simplified version of someone else’s headline in Slack which didn’t help.

Mechjaz
Mechjaz
1 month ago
Reply to  Peter Vieira

Nefarious, got it 😉

Lockleaf
Lockleaf
1 month ago
Reply to  Peter Vieira

I appreciate the ownership! I’m a happy reader. I just didn’t like that one and I’m glad to know that each of you individually cares enough to respond and act on concerns the Commentariat has.

Peter Vieira
Peter Vieira
1 month ago
Reply to  Scoutdude

I think you mean everyone ELSE that works here is better than that, as in SMARTER than that. Me? Not so much.

The headline is being fixed (if it isn’t already) and was never intended to mislead. I misunderstood the nature of the $8,500 discount when refining the headline with the gang, who were counting on me to know what I was talking about.
I did not look carefully enough at the story and did not register that the headline was wrong. That’s unacceptable, but not intentionally nefarious. I apologize for the error.

Scoutdude
Scoutdude
1 month ago
Reply to  Peter Vieira

Thanks for owning up to it and getting it fixed.

Box Rocket
Box Rocket
1 month ago
Reply to  Peter Vieira

Can David tweak his editor’s note to the amended piece?

Update: The initial headline stated that Dodge was giving $8500 to Charger owners. In fact, $7500 is coming from the government. The initial headline was misleading and inaccurate. We’ll do better in the future. -DT].

The $7500 is coming from taxpayers, the government is just distributing funds we’ve paid in. We need to end the false narrative that “government” money somehow makes it free and easy, not that it’s money from the taxpayers. Or, in the case of the government (that is, the federal mint) is excessively printing new money and claiming it for governmental expenditures then it’s devaluing the dollar and spending more than it’s taking in, which is already a multi-trillion dollar issue.

Angel "the Cobra" Martin
Angel "the Cobra" Martin
1 month ago

Is there a worse idea than buying a fist year Stellantis product on a brand new platform?

Vic Vinegar
Vic Vinegar
1 month ago

Brand new powertrain, brand new everything.

To quote Carlos Tavares – “Yeah, thats the ticket”

MrLM002
MrLM002
1 month ago

Buying one with electric door handles…

JDE
JDE
1 month ago
Reply to  MrLM002

And no actual Key, just an app.

Turbotictac
Turbotictac
1 month ago

Any Stellantis product, they are all equally bad ideas

PaysOutAllNight
PaysOutAllNight
1 month ago

Over 20 years ago, Ford paid me $25 to test drive a car. Outright. Another maker gave me a $50 savings bond. I think I did six or seven such offers.

This is not even close to the same thing.

Kleinlowe
Kleinlowe
1 month ago

I’m not going to lie; I don’t like muscle cars, I need an EREV for my next car and not a pure BEV, and I know that buying a Stellantis product is basically about as good idea as electric blanket wind surfing, but oooooh that hatchback makes me feel funny and confused in weird places.

JDE
JDE
1 month ago
Reply to  Kleinlowe

It does look good, just seems to be poorly executed and because of the back pedaling on EV only, likely has a lot of room for assembly errors now.

Kleinlowe
Kleinlowe
1 month ago
Reply to  JDE

Oh, I don’t doubt it’s completely terrible in every conceivable way, and several ways yet unknown to man.

But dat liftback tho.

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
1 month ago

Hey if they can get it around $25,000 plus incentive? Nope not even then.

No More Crossovers
No More Crossovers
1 month ago

I believe this statement entirely coming from username 1978fiatspyderfan

Joke #119!
Joke #119!
1 month ago

 Fratzonic 

Any reason why I’m reading this wrong?

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
1 month ago
Reply to  Joke #119!

Dyslexia? Go from a crappy EV to a ICE motor.

Lizardman in a human suit
Lizardman in a human suit
1 month ago
Reply to  Joke #119!

I always read it as Fartsonic. More accurate anyway.

Car Guy - RHM
Car Guy - RHM
1 month ago

Was in Michigan last week, seen two of them on the road in separate locations.

TheHairyNug
TheHairyNug
1 month ago

They’re in the amazing position of having cultivated a culture that will outright reject the future while still trying to pander to them with BS like that clown show of an “exhaust”, which will turn literally everybody else off. Good f’ing luck

Gene1969
Gene1969
1 month ago
Reply to  TheHairyNug

I Still say this is a gamers dream car. Fake exhaust, rumbly seat, everything they dream of.

JDE
JDE
1 month ago
Reply to  Gene1969

Many cars have sound systems that enhance exhaust tones, including:

  • BMW
  • The BMW M5, M240i, M235i, i8, X3 M40i, X4 M40i, and X6 50i use Active Sound Design (ASD) to create fake engine noises. ASD uses active noise control and acoustic enhancement to amplify, reduce, or create new sounds. 
  • Volkswagen
  • Some diesel cars from Volkswagen have an “exhaust soundaktor” that uses speakers to make the car sound more like a gasoline engine. 
  • Dodge
  • The 2024 Dodge Charger Daytona R/T and Scat Pack have a Fratzonic Chambered Exhaust system that creates a V8 exhaust sound. 
  • Ford
  • The Ford Focus ST, Mustang, and Fiesta ST have a sound symposer that can be removed. 

Other cars with sound system enhanced exhaust tones include: Acura TLX, Kia’s Active Sound System

Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
1 month ago
Reply to  JDE

Ford

The Ford Focus ST, Mustang, and Fiesta ST have a sound symposer that can be removed. 

IDK about the Mustang, but the sound symposer on the Focus ST and Fiesta ST is:

1. Not fake engine sounds from a speaker, it’s a valve that under certain conditions redirects actual engine sounds toward the cabin. There is no speaker replicating ICE sounds.
2. It is intake sound not exhaust sound.

To me, this is drastically different than entirely fabricated noises. The rest on the list are fake noises coming through speakers. The beloved Ioniq 5 N has a whole library of fake engine noises to choose from.

Volkswagen

Some diesel cars from Volkswagen have an “exhaust soundaktor” that uses speakers to make the car sound more like a gasoline engine. 

The soundaktor was also found in the GTI. It sits behind the dash.

Gene1969
Gene1969
1 month ago
Reply to  JDE

Don’t forget Ford pickup trucks with the eco-boost engines.

Vic Vinegar
Vic Vinegar
1 month ago

I’ll be shocked if Dodge can get many current Challenger/Charger R/T and up owners to turn in their HEMIs to sign up for an expensive EV.

It doesn’t matter how nice it is. Or how fast it is. It doesn’t have what they want – a big V8.

Plus did I say it is expensive? The Challenger/Charger R/Ts could be had in the 40’s, even high 30k range with the right discount for a long time. Sure there were more expensive models, but you didn’t need to get a Scat Pack or a Hellcat to have more fun on tap than you can responsibly use on a public roadway.

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
1 month ago
Reply to  Vic Vinegar

They need to market it to non Dodge drivers

JDE
JDE
1 month ago

They apparently are trying, but as you basically have shown even people that love terrible sports cars from the 70’s are scared of the Stellantis Quality reputation.

Nsane In The MembraNe
Nsane In The MembraNe
1 month ago

Does anyone actually care about this stupid car? It’s overpriced, it weighs as much as a goddamn Suburban, its acceleration numbers aren’t particularly exciting in 2024, and the range/charging speed are mediocre. I can’t imagine that the average EV buyer will find a Charger even remotely appealing and the Mopar or no car crowd could not care less.

It’s 5 years too late for this car. BEVs have kind of already come and gone to an extent. The people that want them have already bought them and pretty much everyone else is outright against them for BS culture war reasons or is waiting on the sidelines until they become more feasible. Who the fuck is an EV muscle car for?

This needed more time in the oven but Stellantis gonna Stellantis. Anyway I’m excited to hear about how the straight 6 one is but I’m not holding my breath…I imagine it’s going to be hilariously overweight and the Hurricane 6 popper rollout has been an abject disaster so far.

No Kids, Just Bikes
No Kids, Just Bikes
1 month ago

At $60k to start, the only people lining up for this will be those will to take anything to get out of their Hornets hoping Dodge will give them a nice offer based on brand loyalty.

JDE
JDE
1 month ago

It sure is pretty, but Beauty is only skin deep in this case.

TXJeepGuy
TXJeepGuy
1 month ago

So Dodge is offering a thousand dollar discount.

Lally Singh
Lally Singh
1 month ago

The test drive makes sense — EVs are good at acceleration. But the sound and rumble man, that’s painful to lose. Maybe they can license AC/DC to play in the car during launch control?

RhoadBlock
RhoadBlock
1 month ago
Reply to  Lally Singh

I’d figure there double kicks in Van Halen’s “Hot For Teacher” intro on loop may the go to.

World24
World24
1 month ago

I can’t wait for the dealership mark-ups.
Only thing that doesn’t understand the market more than Stellantis is Dodge franchises.

TooMuchWombat
TooMuchWombat
1 month ago

If there are dealer markups on these, expect them to sit on lots like Hornets. Dodge buyers, probably more than any other buyer, need to be enticed to make the EV switch.

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
1 month ago
Reply to  TooMuchWombat

My local Dodge, Jeep, Eagle dealership never has a mark up and has a decent array of cars for a small town

Lizardman in a human suit
Lizardman in a human suit
1 month ago

Eagle?!?! When was the last time they changed their sign?

Alexk98
Alexk98
1 month ago

So what do we think folks, 6 months before the 10k markups turn into 10% discounts? Overall enthusiasm online seems to have entirely died, and I doubt 1k will persuade any V8 Challenger or Charger owner to move to an EV.

V10omous
V10omous
1 month ago
Reply to  Alexk98

I’m not sure what evidence we have that markups will even be a thing with the Charger.

There are still thousands of new 2023 Chargers for sale with big discounts. To put it lightly, EVs are not generally known for commanding money over sticker (admittedly complicated by direct sales).

I don’t think it will take 6 months to disabuse the dealers of the idea that anyone will pay $10K over. 6 weeks tops, if that.

Vic Vinegar
Vic Vinegar
1 month ago
Reply to  V10omous

They’ll try it. I’m sure there are dealers who will tell you a Stellantis product is in short supply like it is 2021….nevermind the overflow lot over there full of Grand Cherokees. These are hard to find cars!

ADDvanced
ADDvanced
1 month ago
Reply to  Alexk98

You know what will persuade them? Gas prices.

Right now they are cheap AF because it’s election season. It seems like every election, gas prices go down to give favorability to whoever is office. That’s about to end.

Additionally, Russia is continuing to invade Ukraine. Sounds like they’re going to win eventually unless something changes. Oil companies love to have any excuse to jack prices and have them shoot up overnight.

Nsane In The MembraNe
Nsane In The MembraNe
1 month ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

As cool as it would be and despite the average voter believing it, the federal government doesn’t just have a “gas prices go down” switch to garner favorability. There are so many factors that go into gas prices it’s ridiculous…and it annoys me to no end that both parties use it as a talking point because there’s almost nothing the government can do about it due to how much of it is tied to international markets.

Data
Data
1 month ago

I wish I could upvote smiley this 100 times. Just know in my heart I gave you 100 smileys.

Vic Vinegar
Vic Vinegar
1 month ago

You don’t like a good old “Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less” sign?

Maybe they want the US to nationalize the oil industry so domestic production always becomes domestic supply? No, I bet they don’t want that.

TheHairyNug
TheHairyNug
1 month ago

Well, using it as a political talking point is in fact annoying, but there are gas price buttons. The strategic oil reserves are one of those buttons, and it was pressed fairly recently.

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
1 month ago
Reply to  TheHairyNug

How about a fair article here showing what gasoline distributors make vs what the government makes. Also what their regulations add to the cost of production? The government makes more than the people doing the work. I really feel for Californians getting screwed by Newsance another $1 a gallon or more by 2026. But the sheep will still vote and believe that it is greedy production not greedy politicians wanting money to spend.

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
1 month ago

But when the administration blocks drilling, pipelines, and raises taxes they can increase the price. Just because they can’t lower it doesn’t mean they can’t increase it. They did and we are all suffering.

V10omous
V10omous
1 month ago

2023 was the highest oil production all time in the US.

Last edited 1 month ago by V10omous
Vic Vinegar
Vic Vinegar
1 month ago
Reply to  V10omous

Most people have zero grasp of the global oil market.

They seem to think oil pumped out of the Gulf of Mexico just sits in a tank somewhere in Louisiana waiting to lower your gas prices in Jasper, MO.

JDE
JDE
1 month ago
Reply to  Vic Vinegar

Gas prices in Jasper are $2.75 a gallon at the one gas station. Just saying.

Missouri’s gas prices are relatively low due to the proximity to the Gulf Coast states, Oklahoma, and Texas, which allow for the state to be crisscrossed by large pipelines. SO yeah, shut them pipes down and it would change drastically all over the state. Them truckers want lots of money to haul tankers instead.

PlugInPA
PlugInPA
1 month ago
Reply to  V10omous

Sure, he’s wrong on the facts, but what about how it feels right to say Biden is stopping oil production?

V10omous
V10omous
1 month ago
Reply to  PlugInPA

I believe the current vernacular is “Fuck your feelings”

PlugInPA
PlugInPA
1 month ago
Reply to  V10omous

It’s an interesting slogan from a fact-eschewing ideology.

TheHairyNug
TheHairyNug
1 month ago
Reply to  V10omous

Yep, and the mouth breathers on the Dem side don’t want to hear that, so the administration doesn’t wave that flag. The Republicans know that, so they twist that knife, and the mouth breathers on that side will put “I Did That” stickers on gas pumps. It’s obnoxious on the best of days

Last edited 1 month ago by TheHairyNug
V10omous
V10omous
1 month ago
Reply to  TheHairyNug

This is a big problem.

Democrats unwilling to take credit for accomplishments made under Biden because some small fraction of the electorate might get upset.

-Can’t brag about record oil production, that would piss off Greta’s people.

-Can’t brag about a record stock market, low unemployment, and rising real wages because socialists want a revolution and people who didn’t get a raise might get upset.

-Can’t brag about falling crime rates because that was accomplished by hiring more police and prosecuting more crimes.

And so on.

TheHairyNug
TheHairyNug
1 month ago
Reply to  V10omous

Every so often, I wonder which far leaning side is more delusional, but then I come to and find myself leaning. Halfway out a window, that is. Really boggles the mind

Drive By Commenter
Drive By Commenter
1 month ago
Reply to  V10omous

“You can please some of the people all the time. You can please all of the people some of the time. You can’t please all the people all the time.” John Lydgate, popularized by Abraham Lincoln.

Lockleaf
Lockleaf
1 month ago
Reply to  TheHairyNug

I appreciate perspectives from people who have noticed there are actually mouth breathers on both sides of this messed up equation we now call US Politics. Thank you for that.

ADDvanced
ADDvanced
1 month ago

I disagree. They can allow oil companies to tap into the oil reserves, whenever they want. This does affect price.

Look at the data, last few elections it’s def been true:

https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/gas-cheaper-presidential-election-years-checked-19810210.php

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
1 month ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

Heck back before 2020 I was paying at least $1 less than now and during the 2020s sometimes even $2 a gallon less.

Drive By Commenter
Drive By Commenter
1 month ago

We had this little thing called COVID that shut down a lot of stuff in early 2020. That hangover lasted about a year. People weren’t driving places because in person stuff went poof overnight. Now all that stuff is back open so the demand is there again.

TheHairyNug
TheHairyNug
1 month ago

It’s not worth engaging with that poster

JDE
JDE
1 month ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

the bigger issue in Ukraine is going to be two-fold. Russia is pulling the other turds in that area into the fold to basically start WW3(China for Taiwan, Middle East for Israel, and North Korea for any relevance at all). Putin is the perfect example of political leaders getting too old and senile to be allowed to continue to lead.

Chronometric
Chronometric
1 month ago

Well that shows some serious confidence in your new product.

The owner demographic is a tough sell, the marketing has been unmoored, and the car is a bad joke. At least this indicates that Stellantis now realizes the gravity of the situation.

Last edited 1 month ago by Chronometric
Alexk98
Alexk98
1 month ago
Reply to  Chronometric

It’s genuinely both sad and hilarious how much of a miss this car is from the styling, pricing, powertrain, and marketing departments. Stellantis turned a money printer into a money incinerator by doing what it does best, completely misreading the room and ignoring every word of owner feedback.

ADDvanced
ADDvanced
1 month ago
Reply to  Alexk98

I think it looks great.

Nsane In The MembraNe
Nsane In The MembraNe
1 month ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

I agree. They fucked everything else up completely but it does look pretty cool all things considered.

Chronometric
Chronometric
1 month ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

The hood arch over the front wheels is just wrong somehow. Otherwise, it is fine.

V10omous
V10omous
1 month ago

Headline:

Dodge Will Pay Current Charger Drivers $8,500 To Try The Electric Daytona

Fine print:

Current Dodge lessees will receive $1,000 off the new coupe or sedan when they lease either. Keep in mind that Daytona EV is potentially eligible for a $7,500 federal tax credit too. 

Ummmmm, it sounds like Stellantis is offering owners $1000, and US taxpayers are on the hook for the other $7500.

Last edited 1 month ago by V10omous
MegaVan
MegaVan
1 month ago
Reply to  V10omous

Headline:

Dodge Will Charge Current Charger Drivers $1,000 Less to Lease The Electric Daytona

So about like any lease in the universe ($1,000 off for lessees with a “Luxury Model” vehicle, Tesla, Cadillac, Nissan, Alfa, Dodge, Yugo, Jeep, Honda, BYD, etc)

AllCattleNoHat
AllCattleNoHat
1 month ago
Reply to  V10omous

The general demographic for the stereotypical/historical buyer pool of these is the exact same subset of the population that is very vocally dead set against the government providing (your own) tax dollars toward the purchase of anything EV.

But yes, Stellantis is only putting up $1,000 on a car that sure seems overpriced by multiples of that. This post has a VERY misleading headline. The $7500 would apply not only if it was a Dodge but also if it were a Hyundai or a MINI, it has zero to do with Dodge/Stellantis.

AllCattleNoHat
AllCattleNoHat
1 month ago
Reply to  AllCattleNoHat

I wish I could edit…re-reading the headline makes it obvious how clickbait it really is. Dodge isn’t giving anyone $8500 to “try” the Daytona. That indicates that theyd give you the money just to literally “try” it and even if they do purchase (oh wait it needs to be leased not purchased) they Dodge is providing $1000 and the US gov’t is providing the other $7500.
“Dodge will discount the Daytona by $1000 for existing owners but only if they lease one and they will also receive another $7500 from the USA just like pretty much any other leased EV.” seems far more correct if less exciting to click on…

Peter Vieira
Peter Vieira
1 month ago
Reply to  V10omous

Yeah man, I *really* cocked it up. Stop me if you’ve already seen this:

The headline is being fixed (if it isn’t already) and was never intended to mislead. I misunderstood the nature of the $8,500 discount when refining the headline with the gang, who were counting on me to know what I was talking about.
I did not look carefully enough at the story and did not register that the headline was wrong. That’s unacceptable, but not intentionally nefarious. I apologize for the error

V10omous
V10omous
1 month ago
Reply to  Peter Vieira

Nothing personal was ever intended with my comment and no intentions on anyone’s part were assumed. I was surprised by the headline and only noticed the “fine print” when reading. I certainly don’t think less of you or the site over a minor error like that. Appreciate the post.

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