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Jeep’s First Diesel Pickup Was A Forgotten Fuel-Sipper With A Real French Connection

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The Jeep Comanche is one of the more forgettable models from America’s favorite off-road automaker. The humble pickup popped up for a few years, made a few sales, and then Jeep fled the truck market entirely for several decades. Even more obscure, though, is the rare diesel version. The oil-burning Comanche promised amazing fuel economy and savings, only to disappear shortly after it hit the market.

America has always had a weird situationship with diesel. On the one hand, Ford and GM sell plenty of Power Stroke and Duramax engines every year. Meanwhile, in the Ram world, people go nuts for anything with a big ol’ Cummins in it. Outside of these mainstream truck applications, though, the oily fuel has never quite caught on.

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Indeed, that was the problem Jeep faced in the 1980s. Along with the rest of the Big Three, it tried to jump on the diesel bandwagon with fuel-sipping engines, only to find that they didn’t quite connect with the market. Let’s dive into the tale of the diesel Jeep trucks that vanished almost as soon as they appeared.

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As seen on this rare survivor from Bring a Trailer, Comanche diesels are not outwardly particularly different from the gas-powered models.

The French Connection

The 1970s were a tough time for American motorists. Oil crises raged and left drivers lining up at gas stations to fill their tanks, while prices climbed ever higher. This created the conditions for diesel’s rise. It had long been the preserve of trucking and agriculture, but now, it had potential as a new fuel for mainstream use.

Diesel’s higher energy density and ability to run at higher compression ratios meant it could offer fuel economy beyond any gas engine. This left automakers scrambling to find diesel engines to add to their fleets. With the 1980s around the corner, the game was on. GM rushed out a converted gas engine that soon became an unmitigated disaster. Dodge grabbed a diesel from Mitsubishi and imported some compact turbodiesels to boot. Even International Harvester got in on the action with a turbodiesel Scout, just before it collapsed.

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The turbodiesel Comanche isn’t instantly recognizable unless you peek inside the engine bay and notice the mechanical fuel system. Image: Bring a Trailer

Meanwhile, Jeep was running late to the party. The diesel craze that started in the late 1970s had already faltered by the early 1980s, with GM’s disastrous Oldsmobile V8 doing huge damage to the reputation fo diesel engines as a whole. Still, come 1985, Jeep was finally ready. It had a diesel ready for the showroom floor.

Given the partnership between AMC and Renault in the 1980s, Jeep’s choice of diesel powerplant was easy. It grabbed a variant of the Douvrin engine off the shelf. The engine family featured both gasoline and diesel variants, with Jeep choosing a 2.1-liter turbodiesel known as the Renault J8S for its greater power output. The all-aluminum engine weighed just 331 pounds and relied on cast iron cylinder liners for durability. It achieved a compression ratio of 21.5:1 in diesel form.

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The Renault J8S

Despite forced induction, the French-designed four-cylinder wasn’t exactly a powerhouse. It put out just 85 horsepower and 132 lb-ft of torque. In the power stakes, it was well down on the standard 2.5-liter gasoline four which offered 117 horsepower and 135 pound-feet of torque. This was also at the time that Jeep was offering a 2.8-liter gasoline V6 as an upgrade option, though it was questionable—it offered less power than the gasoline four at just 115 hp, but a small lift up to 150 pound-feet of torque.

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Jeep did mention its new engine offering in 985, but stopped short of making a big deal with diesel-specific ads. Note that this ad doesn’t even mention the power or fuel economy of the diesel—merely noting that it exists. Almost an afterthought.

Unlike many of its American contemporaries, the Renault diesel used an overhead cam design and used a timing belt rather than a chain. This made it smoother and quieter, at least in theory, but it also meant more frequent maintenance, as the belt needed changing every 50,000 miles. The J8S would eventually be known for head gasket and head bolt failures, too. No surprise, as it was often thrashed to haul 6,000-pound Winnebagos down the interstate for hours at a time. Notably, Jeep also kitted the engine with an intercooler, differentiating it from some less-sophisticated turbodiesels then on the market. As was common at the time, the engine was fed via a mechanical fuel pump, with no electronic controls.

The engine was actually quite popular around the world, and the J8S ended up in a whole lot of Renault sedans, as well as the sporty Fuego and the Espace, Trafic and Master vans. The J8S also found homes in the Winnebago LeSharo and Itasca Phasar RVs, both of which were built on the Renault Trafic platform.

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Winnebago and its premium brand Itasca also used the same Renault J8S engine in the 1980s. Funnily enough, Winnebago Parts is allegedly the best place to find spares for the engine to this day. Credit: A1AA1A, CC BY-SA 4.0 

Jeep debuted the diesel on the 1985 Jeep Cherokee and the related Wagoneer. When the Comanche rolled around in 1986, based on the XJ platform, it made perfect sense to include it on the pickup, too. Years after the competition had tried diesel—and some had failed—Jeep was giving it a go.

[Mercedes’s note: Curiously, this wasn’t even the first time Jeep offered a diesel to civilians. The first was a Perkins diesel in the CJ-5 back in 1961, but that wasn’t really a pickup truck. – MS]

What the diesel lacked in muscle, it made up for in efficiency. The diesel Comanche could achieve up to 31 mpg on the highway and 28 mpg around the city in two-wheel-drive models—impressive numbers for a pickup in the late 1980s.  Even the four-wheel-drive models could do 29 mpg highway and 28 mpg around the city. These figures were a solid jump above the 2.5-liter four-cylinder gas engine, which performed as poorly as 23 mpg in the city. Jeep’s optional 2.8-liter gasoline V6 did even worse, achieving just 17 mpg with barely any more power than the four-cylinder engine.

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The diesel only gets a few passing mentions in the text of the 1986 Comanche brochure, and is never pictured. It’s no surprise that so few sold.

On its initial launch in the Cherokee, Jeep paired the diesel with either a three-speed automatic or a five-speed manual transmission. However, it was rather underpowered for the 3,300-pound SUV. Thus, when it appeared on the Comanche, Jeep only offered it with a manual transmission.

Despite the horsepower deficit, however, it wasn’t a terrible performer. According to Diesel World, contemporary magazine tests had the diesel donk largely keeping up with the gassers. Reportedly, Four Wheeler timed a diesel Cherokee in the zero-to-60 mph sprint at 17.31 seconds with 4.10 gearing, and 20.1 seconds with the 3.73 final drive. Meanwhile, the 2.8-liter V6 achieved 19.8 seconds with the 3.73 gearing—suggesting the diesel was slower, but maybe only by a hair. None were quick, but that was never the point of the Cherokee or Comanche anyway.

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“Worth a look” didn’t extend to the diesel, apparently.

Gone Tomorrow

Ultimately, the diesel Comanche disappeared after just two years. Jeep’s compact pickup entered production in 1985 for the 1986 model year, and the turbodiesel was mentioned in all the brochures. However, by 1988, the Renault diesel was no longer available—and it was the same story for the XJ Cherokee, too. That is, in the US—the engine stuck around until 1994 for the European market.

In the US, several factors contributed to its demise. Gas prices stabilized by the late 1980s, with buyers in turn taking less interest in the fuel efficiency offered by diesel models. There was also still a hangover from GM’s early diesel efforts, which had seen huge class-action lawsuits and much negative press coverage.

There was also the matter of cost. In 1985, the diesel engine was a $1,124 option on the Cherokee, compared to just $300 for the V6. That was a big chunk of change for a vehicle that started at under $10,000. For that money, you were getting improved fuel economy, but it would take you some time to make up the difference. For many, the higher price likely spoiled a lot of the appeal of the otherwise thrifty diesel.

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Jeep made the turbodiesel available in both two- and four-wheel-drive trucks. The former configuration maximized the fuel economy benefits.

We don’t have exact numbers on how many Comanches rolled out the door with diesel power. For the Cherokee, though, Diesel World suggests that just 3,343 XJ Cherokees got the engine in 1985, along with 329 Wagoneers. In that same year, Jeep built 98,877 Cherokees and 13,501 Wagoneers. Ultimately, the take rate was somewhere below 4%. It’s no surprise Jeep decided to cancel the engine given the lack of customer demand. In any case, with only a handful built over the two years or so they were in production, they are now incredibly rare today.

The diesel Comanche was late to the party, and the Cherokee hadn’t exactly shown up early itself. It wasn’t the end of the story for Jeep, though. The company would later dance with diesel again, several times in fact. It even built a new diesel pickup in the form of the Jeep Gladiator, which rocked a 3.0-liter turbodiesel V6 good for 260 horsepower and 442 pound-feet of torque. Despite the prodigious twist and good efficiency, though, it similarly failed to find an audience. Jeep announced it was exiting production in 2023, just two years after its debut.

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If you see this badge in the wild, you know you’re looking at something special. via Bring a Trailer

But in 1986, America just wasn’t ready for a small diesel pickup; at least, not one wearing the storied Jeep badge. The Big Three ended up unlocking the secret to building popular diesels, with high-displacement engines in full-sized trucks. Meanwhile, Jeep never quite found a diesel that excited their rusted-on fans in the home country, and the world moved on.

Image credits: Jeep, A1AA1A – CC BY-SA 4.0, Bring a Trailer

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TXJeepGuy
TXJeepGuy
1 hour ago

The best reason to buy the diesel XJ/MJ is for an engine swap in a state like California where a diesel doesn’t have to visit the smog station. I knew a couple guys who were running Chevy V8’s and 4.3L V6s in these.

Bizness Comma Nunya
Bizness Comma Nunya
1 hour ago

These Renault diesels weren’t very reliable or long-lived.

What I wish AMC/Jeep would have done would have been to spec the XJ with the 2.8 GM Gas V6 and with the Olds Diesel V6. The Olds V6 even had aluminum heads for saving weight (also was the first use of lost-foam aluminum casting). The Olds V6 diesel was also much better built and more reliable (especially in 1985) vs. the Olds V8 diesels.

I mean, they were already sourcing one engine from GM, might as well have done the other?

Eggsalad
Eggsalad
3 hours ago

After the Oldsmobile debacle, American manufacturers universally recognized they shouldn’t try making Diesel passenger car and minitruck engines. And they mostly had foreign partners to supply such engines.

GM put Isuzu Diesels into Chevettes and S-10’s, along with the Buick Opel by Isuzu, obviously.

Ford put Mazda Diesels into Escorts, Tempos, and Rangers.

Chrysler didn’t really do passenger cars with Diesels, but before the tie-in with Cummins, some D- and W-series pickups got Mitsubishi Diesels.

International used Nissan Diesels (although I don’t think there was any tie-in, they just bought engines off the shelf.)

And AMC used Renault engines.

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26 minutes ago
Reply to  Eggsalad

A friend of mine had one of those diesel Escorts back in the 80s. He was so proud of the fuel economy, but man, that thing was dog slow.

B3n
B3n
3 hours ago

Non-US market XJs later also received a 2.5 VM Motori 425 diesel, very similar to the one in David’s Chrysler minivan.
The older Renault diesel is indeed slower, but considered to be more reliable.
Both of them are too slow for US highways.
The best diesel Jeeps in my opinion are the 2.7 inline-5 CRD WJs and the 3.0 V6 CRD WKs, both powerplants sourced from Mercedes.

Jatkat
Jatkat
3 hours ago

The V6 did 0-60 in TWENTY seconds?? I don’t understand, I’ve driven an S-10 with the 2.8, and it was slow, but nowhere near THAT slow

Col Lingus
Col Lingus
4 hours ago

If these had come with a shrubbery in the bed they would have sold like hotcakes…

Data
Data
2 hours ago
Reply to  Col Lingus

Ni!!!

4jim
4jim
4 hours ago

20 second 0-60 times were something. Even then that was not a great sales pitch. Not too many people look back on many of the early 80’s jeep motors fondly.

Manwich Sandwich
Manwich Sandwich
4 hours ago

 It even built a new diesel pickup in the form of the Jeep Gladiator, which rocked a 3.0-liter turbodiesel V6 good for 260 horsepower and 442 pound-feet of torque. Despite the prodigious twist and good efficiency, though, it similarly failed to find an audience.”

That 3L V6 ecodiesel was great… until you had to fix it. And apparently they had to be fixed a lot. See this I Do Cars youtube video on one of these engines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lSHuzkv_RU

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
4 hours ago

I had a Comanche for a couple of years, though not a diesel. This was a genuinely great little truck if you could avoid rust. Sadly, mine had not had its cabin drain plugs pulled ever by the time it came into my hands and its unibody cab frame was on its last legs. I said goodbye when a solid Scrambler came my way. I always wanted a CJ8 and loved mine, but, honestly, the Comanche was the better pickup. If I could find a rust free example today, I wouldn’t hesitate to re-engine it with a Cummins R2.8 Turbodiesel and drive off into the sunset. I might even keep the original mill if I happened across the Renault diesel. Sadly, the Comanche was one small pickup too many for Chrysler once the Dakota dropped and was a hit.

Last edited 4 hours ago by Canopysaurus
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