Tesla went big on its Cybercab announcement event on Thursday night. It’s been a long-awaited moment, as the EV automaker has been championing autonomous taxis as the ultimate goal of its self-driving technology for years now.
The company’s well-attended livestream finally gave us a real look at the vehicle that’s supposed to herald the future of transportation—in Tesla’s vision, at least. The company revealed a sleek, futuristic-looking vehicle, as you might expect—but with ultimately less daring aesthetics than the polarizing Cybertruck.
That’s not to say that Tesla gave us something conventional. Far from it, in fact. It’s a two-seater, a coupe, and it’s got scissor doors paired with a drastically-sloping roofline. It’s like no other cab you’ve ever hailed before.
Robotaxi & Robovan pic.twitter.com/pI2neyJBSL
— Tesla (@Tesla) October 11, 2024
They call it a Robotaxi in the Tweet? Sure. They called it a Cybercab everywhere else.
Tesla headlines the Cybercab as “faster” and “more affordable.” Why? Well, you won’t be paying a human driver to sit in the seat to haul you around. Beyond that, it notes that the design relies solely on cameras for its self-driving ability. Tesla has long eschewed the use of more expensive radar or LIDAR sensors in its autonomous driving program.
Tesla also states you’ll be able to “call it once” and keep the vehicle “as long as needed,” whether you’re taking short trips or using it all day. Contrast that to a contemporary rideshare or taxi, which is only yours for as long as your trip lasts.
Once again, Tesla has flirted with bold price claims. We’re told the Cybercab will be cost less than $30,000 for purchase, and that sales will be open to private individuals, not just fleet buyers. They’re selling the concept of a cheap robot car that hauls you hither and thither, with the added appeal of the aforementioned scissor doors.
The elephant in the room, of course, is a big one. At this stage, Tesla doesn’t have the technology for self-driving taxis that operate without human supervision. The livestream addressed this, with CEO Elon Musk stating he predicts non-supervised self-driving will be available “before 2027.” This would apply not just to the Cybercab, but to the rest of the Tesla fleet as well—Musk noted that the Model 3, Model Y, Cybertruck, et al, will all get Level 4 or Level 5 self-driving capability. Basically, that’s where the car can drive itself under the vast majority of situations without any human supervision or interaction. You know, what we all think self-driving means.
NEWS: Tesla has filed four patents related to a wireless charging mat for vehicles. This mat is something the car will drive over and it will automatically start charging. While it's not clear what Teslas will use this, presumably Tesla's upcoming Robotaxi will utilize this… https://t.co/jyr5RX0EmI pic.twitter.com/MSdqc9jCoT
— Sawyer Merritt (@SawyerMerritt) September 7, 2024
Notably, the livestream mentioned that the Cybercab will have inductive charging capability. This comes as little surprise, as Tesla’s research activity in this area has been public knowledge for some time. As we reported last month, Tesla has filed four patents regarding wireless EV charging technology. Patent drawings and other graphics from the company suggest charging is achieved via a floor-mounted rectangular pad that sits beneath the vehicle. We’ve also seen that provisions appear to have been made on existing Tesla vehicle batteries for this purpose, with connectors for the technology already apparently included on some batteries.
This move makes sense. While it’s possible to build a robotic apparatus to plug in a wired charger to an EV, a wireless charger is altogether simpler to implement. One merely needs to drive the vehicle over the pad to start charging. This would be far simpler and easier for an autonomous vehicle, and require far less maintenance over time.
Autonomous cabs promise a multitude of benefits. Namely, there’s no need for a human driver to spend their time schlepping other humans around. This eliminates labor costs if you’re hiring a cab, for example, and also avoids issues like fatigue. Alternatively, if it’s your Cybercab you’re talking about, full autonomy avoids the issue of parking. You can have your vehicle drop you off at your destination, and then it can drive away and come pick you up later. There’s no need to find convenient parking near your destination. You can also work during your commute, which theoretically could let you spend more time at home with your loved ones, plus in theory you could rent out your car to someone without worrying about them driving like crazed loons.
That’s all very fun, of course, it’s just not real. Not quite yet, anyway. But Tesla still firmly believes that it can make it happen, and the Cybercab is the vehicle apparently optimized to operate in this way.
What’s weird is that Tesla’s prime autonomous cab would only have two seats and an obviously limited cargo capacity. On the one hand, a great many cab trips do carry just one or two people. On the other hand, it’s a pain enough today when you’re travelling with five friends and have to try and score yourself one of the big Ubers. It would be particularly annoying if this happened every time you were travelling as a trio. In any case, Tesla dodged around this to a degree by simultaneously announcing the Robovan, which apparently has 20 seats and far more space.
Ultimately, the Cybercab is kind of a surprise. That’s what Tesla does well, of course. A regular automaker might have showed us another pod concept with comfy chairs and lots of room inside, but that wouldn’t fit the Tesla aesthetic. What they showed us was something radical, shocking, and questionably practical. Given the way the Cybertruck lit up the discourse, both for better and worse, it seems the Cybercab is following a similar formula. Tesla is as Tesla does, that much is certain.
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IMHO if it isn’t a full size station wagon or a properly designed mini or full size van it isn’t a one size fits all. Even then a wheelchair is not properly fitted in.
Judging by Musk’s opinions on a variety of topics, I’m comfortable in guessing that he doesn’t care about handicapped people.
By the looks of it, they never bothered to talk to a city planner. This think takes up way too much space to move two people.
CyberCRAP…that is the most boring fucking interior I’ve ever seen…also the pic below it is a room full of stans that I want to have nothing to ever do with. What a bunch of fools w/ no life
Is it a 2 seater because they cannot launch it with 1 seat? I think the goal was to minimize the accountability for the helpless passengers riding a vehicle they have no way of controlling. Imagine having more passengers when Johnnycab gets offended and does its own thing
Bravo Musk.Lying about the capabilities of this pie in the sky thing saves you having to lie about FSD for yet another year.
I suspect too many will miss the slight of hand
Meanwhile:
Who is the guy next to the tree with the remote control?
https://www.reddit.com/r/CarsIndia/comments/1g13ty0/the_first_look_at_elon_musks_tesla_robotaxi_no/
It’s stupid, but I *adore* how it looks. Sue me
I like it as well. Can’t stand the company and what it represents, and wouldn’t buy it anyway because I’m a minivan guy, but I like the design (and the above is true for the Cybertruck too)
True, the shape is good.Classical sportback.
But as it sits it’s too sterile for my tastes
It just needs some digital fluffy dice, sparks painted up the side (instead of flames) and a sticker on the back that says “Honk as much as you want, the real driver is sitting in an office 200 miles away pretending to be a robot”
Maybe I have no taste but besides the Model S, Teslas all have this stubby look I can’t stand. Some combination of the high windowlines and the slope of the fastbacks – this takes that ethos so far.
I’ve always thought they were way more deserving of the “shitting dog” comparison than the Crossfire.
Sigh. People need jobs as drivers. Taxi/Uber, delivery, race car, whatever. They seem to do a pretty fair job of it too. Not sure why this is a thing.
Sorry if it’s come up already in earlier comments, but here goes- For Musk’s pipe dream version of self driving to work, he’s going to need pretty lax regulatory oversight. His reliance on AI to stand in for radar/lidar makes it nearly impossible to know where to affix blame when something goes wrong. And something WILL go wrong. It feels very much like Tesla is trying to code their way through this when the problem requires much better hardware to even begin to be solved to a level of safety that SHOULD be required.
Who is this for? Ridesharing? Some sort of new “taxi” company? To run this at some sort of scale, how do you insure them. If you own one yourself and are having it do ridesharing all on it’s own, how do you insure it? Liability is going to have it’s say, even if regulation continues to stumble along, or worse, is completely absent.
Design wise, it sure looks like either the Model 3 or Y has been tapped for the windshield/A-pillar. In fact, the Model Y would actually have been a pretty decent base for taxi. My last Lyft ride was in one. The decision to make it just 2 seats is just weird. There’s as much trunk space as passenger space. Why? The decisions here smack of doing the minimum to make this thing. If you can do that cleverly, great! That does not seem to be the case here. In fact, the functionality seems to have been worsened for no decent reason.
I’m not even going to touch on that stupid
terrible busvan.I’m pretty cynical at this point but it seems primed for a fanatically litigious new insurance company from someone that say… has big ideas about banking, finance, legal matters and politics.
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Have they said why they don’t want to use lidar and radar? The Waymo cars haven’t been perfect, but they work pretty damn well with their variety of sensors.
Money. Pure and simple. Musk is trying to AI and camera his way through this because it costs substantially less. But there are very concerning drawbacks to that route, namely that they haven’t been able to get it past level 2 autonomy. He’s trying to code his way through a problem that could really use the hardware you described.
Because Musk has decided that if humans can drive cars with just their eyes, cars can drive themselves just with cameras…. except cameras are not eyes and humans have proprioception and depth perception.
Turns out they were testing these on public roads in Germany recently.
https://globalnews.ca/news/10805319/cookie-monster-caught-speeding-german-highway/
is it just me or does this look like Lightning McQueen? Kachow?
I would want more windows. If I’m in a taxi, there’s a good chance I’m on a trip and would appreciate the ability to sightsee. it probably would also prevent some people from getting carsick.
The coupe would make a nice regular coupe, though. Not sure why that shape is being used for a taxi.
I can’t decide if the van looks more like a Minority Report prop or Demolition Man prop but I like the sci-fi dystopia aesthetic.
I’m going with Brazil prop. Definitely looks like something Terry Gilliam would imagine.
Musk’s whole thing is he hates being around people – specially the poors. This Cybercab is designed to shuttle the privileged from one oasis to another with minimal interaction to the world around them.
Elon is a moron. Glad I sold all my Tesla last year at it’s peak, it still hasn’t come back up to where it was because he’s obsessed with being an internet troll and fascist enabler.
Like his buddy Trump, he is NOT a moron. They are both genius-level b.s. artists.
Those wireless pads already exist as a working concept, not sure how Tesla is getting patents on that. Saw this like a year ago on This Old House of all places: https://youtu.be/INkKIA6vtbU?si=AHcP3zZTqQZTKmjH
From a styling standpoint, this should have been the new Model 3 instead of the simple refresh that we got. The basic shape is similar to the current model 3, but it applies cybertruck lighting elements to the front and a nice new design for the rear.
Someone sent me the pic this morning without an article; that’s what I thought I was looking at, a sport model 3 coupe.
This would be a pretty good car to sell as a car… although it does give off some Altima vibes….