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The Well-Cast Cars Of ‘Widow’s Bay’

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Have any of you seen the new Apple TV show Widow’s Bay? It’s a new horror-comedy series on Apple TV that is wonderfully written and, I think, maybe one of the best new streaming series of the season or year or however the hell we’re grouping these things now. Even more importantly, the show has some very good car-casting that works within the highly specific setting of the show, so let’s talk about that, because, you know, cars.

The job of car-casting in movies and television is, I think, one of the more under-appreciated aspects of the medium. It’s under-appreciated because if it’s done right, most people don’t even notice it at all. If it’s wrong even a little bit, though, it stands out and can ruin everything immediately, like a bandaid found in a cheeseburger.

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Whomever did the automotive casting for Widow’s Bay, though, did it right. It takes place on a small New England island, about 40 miles off the mainland, a charming-looking fishing island with a feel like Martha’s Vineyard or Bar Harbor, but without the tourist income because, well, strange shit goes down there.

Here, the trailer should give some idea of what I’m talking about:

Okay, so let’s think about what sorts of cars would be on an island like this? It’s not terribly large, there’s not really a ton of money on the island, access is only via ferry, and the population is relatively small, but stable. This means that cars tend to stick around there for a while: the cars that live on the island simply can’t put on that much mileage, because there’s just not all that far to really go on the island. None of these cars are taking 4 hour plus roadtrips unless they’re driving in circles.

And, economic reasons mean that if you have a viable car you bought decades ago, there’s not much incentive to get rid of it and get a new one. Cars tend to have longer lifespans in contexts like these, which is exactly what we see on the island.

I don’t know what the population of the island is supposed to be – I’d guess somewhere around 3,000 to 5,000? There’s a decent number of cars around, but I’m just going to focus on the ones we see most prominently.

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I guess the closest thing we have to a “hero” car here is the main character’s car, Mayor Tom Loftis’ late (1997-2001) Jeep Cherokee XJ. This feels like a very well-cast and appropriate car for the mayor of a New England island town. Modest but well-kept, rugged for the inclement weather, unpretentious and respectable. It’s not being off-roaded or anything like that, but it’s definitely capable when the weather turns awful. Incredibly, this may be the newest car we see regularly on the show.

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One of my favorite bits of car-casting on the show is this 1979-1981 or so Plymouth Champ. In 1982, they changed the name to Plymouth Colt, so it has to be before then. These were captive imports, re-badged Mitsubishi Colts, and I always liked the clean design of these. This car is owned by one of my favorite characters on the show, Patricia, who gets some fantastic her-focused episodes.

The car fits the character well, and I suspect was likely a hand-me-down from her parents. It’s a slightly sad economy car, but it keeps on going, which fits the character well.

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Patricia has another vehicle, a mobile library known as the “Pattiwagon.”

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It’s a Chevy P30 Step Van, likely from the early 1980s as well, and I think this may be the closest thing we see on the show to someone having a “project car.”

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We see Patricia’s Champ here, but also another significant car on the show, the 1964-ish Dodge D100 truck owned by Wyck, a salty islander fisherman. I like how the rust pattern on the hood almost looks like a flame job. I’m not sure any two panels are the same color on that thing.

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This Land Rover Defender 110, poorly parked, is seen in passing in a calendar that is otherwise just pictures of Wolves. It is never explained.

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The lone law enforcement vehicle on the island is also pretty long in the tooth: this first generation (1991-1994) Ford Explorer. It has a very old-school lights-and-siren bar on the roof and seems well-maintained, but it’s clear the island’s sheriff’s department isn’t exactly rolling in cash.

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The one car we see being driven by a teenager is this ’79 (I think, based on the black mirrors and quad round lights) Volvo 240 wagon. This could be a parent’s car, but could be a hand-me-down; there are more modern cars seen in background scenes that would suggest that some islanders have bought cars more recently than the Clinton administration, after all.

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The only taxi seen is also a Volvo 240 wagon, this one an earlier single-round-light one, seen briefly in a shot of a black-and-white security CCTV monitor. They would make good cabs, especially for tourists that may be bringing fishing equipment or similar bulky stuff.

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This 1982-ish Toyota Camry is another good example of a likely car for the island, looked after well, used fairly lightly, and keeping together just well enough to justify its long, useful life.

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Finally, the car that made me realize I should write this up in the first place: this wonderful 1964 (I think) Chevy Corvair 95 Greenbriar van. This one is owned by the town of Widow’s Bay, and sports a roof-mounted loudspeaker and rolling orange light, along with its boiled-mutton-color livery. I always loved these air-cooled, flat-six rear-engined vans (designed to compete with the VW Type 2 buses) and you can imagine this would have been a sensible choice for the town to buy over 60 years ago, and has been maintained and preserved ever since, coming out only rarely for emergencies, like what was seen in the most recent episode.

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It’s a great show, and a great and subtle example of how important good car-casting really is. I definitely would suggest you watch it if you have a chance (and Apple TV, I suppose). Oh, and it’s never overtly explained why the statue of the town’s founder is headless, but based on what the show has presented, I think I get it.

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Here4thecars
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Here4thecars
2 days ago

Another show that I think does great car-casting in “Dark Winds” on AMC. From the hero lifted GMC suburban, to the El Camino driven by Jim Chee, Autopians will have a great time picking out some really cool cars from the 60’s & 70’s on this show.

AmberTurnSignalsAreBetter
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AmberTurnSignalsAreBetter
22 hours ago
Reply to  Here4thecars

That’s a great show and the car-casting is spot-on. I will have to rewatch it again!

FormerTXJeepGuy
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FormerTXJeepGuy
3 days ago

I’d definitely vote for a mayor who was daily driving an XJ.

Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
3 days ago

“The only taxi seen is also a Volvo 240 wagon, this one an earlier single-round-light one…”

Nope.

That’s a Volvo 145 – either 1971 or 1972.

You can tell by the slight forward tilt to the black grille ringed in brushed aluminum with separate bezels for the headlamps (140s before and after had integrated grille/bezels), slim pre-1974 bumpers, 8 hole wheels (240 steelies had 5 holes and flatter hubcaps), and the vent windows which the 240 lost in the upgrade.

If the door handles are flush flip-ups, it’s a ’72. If the handles are push-buttons on chrome horizontal grips – which I believe this is – it’s a ’71.

Last edited 3 days ago by Urban Runabout
Lightning
Lightning
3 days ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

Here to say the same thing. A 1971 145S was what my dad and mom drove in my earliest memories, and one of two Volvo wagons we had (a 265GL the other) when I first started driving.

Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
3 days ago
Reply to  Lightning

I had a ’71 144S and later a ’72 145E back in the mid 80’s.

Hazdazos
Hazdazos
4 days ago

How has Autopian not done a write-up on the forward-thinking Corvair line of sedans, coupes, pickups, vans and wagons?! Probably the single most unique and advanced model lineup to ever come from an American mass-market automaker.

I’m sure if the Corvair lineup was released by VW or Toyota, there would have been a few articles devoted to these innovative vehicles by now.

1978fiatspyderfan
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1978fiatspyderfan
4 days ago

I am at a quandary. The only reason I liked the old site was DT AND JT. Now we seldom see the writing from them we used to see and the site seems to be filling up with the writing we didn’t like and left. Really becoming Jalopnik what happened to the funny breezy entertainment we came here for?

DONALD FOLEY
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DONALD FOLEY
4 days ago

I really think the first model year for Toyota Camry in the United States is 1983.

Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
3 days ago
Reply to  DONALD FOLEY

Camry was released in March 1982 as a 1983 model.

Nlpnt
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Nlpnt
4 days ago

It sounds like they wanted it to be a period piece but going to that last bit of detail would’ve cost considerably more than what they ended up doing.

Chartreuse Bison
Chartreuse Bison
4 days ago

On a tiny island with salt air and far enough north there’s probably road salt in the winter too, old cars don’t really make sense.
I get it, it’s a vibe. The sheriff showing up in a modern unibody explorer probably wouldn’t fit the theme, but don’t try to pretend these cars actually fit the setting in 2026. Maintaining something that old in the rust belt is more expensive than buying a newer (less) used car. Especially on island where getting out of production parts is going to be really difficult. Maybe some of the cars are garage kept and hardly ever used, but the sheriff is definitely going to do a lot of driving.

Last edited 4 days ago by Chartreuse Bison
Mr. Fusion
Mr. Fusion
3 days ago

But do small Northern New England islands get mountains of snow like they get in the mainland interior? I would think the maritime climate results in less snow overall, and therefore less salt on the roads. (But I’ve never visited any islands up there, so I don’t actually know.)

Hazdazos
Hazdazos
3 days ago
Reply to  Mr. Fusion

The ocean is a fairly constant temp and it’s almost always a little warmer than the surrounding land. I’m not northern NE, but am southern NE and we are definitely a few degrees warmer than inland in the winter (and a few degrees cooler in summer). We usually get less snow but if it’s a storm passing by, we’ll get hit just as hard sometimes. The difference is because we’re slightly warmer, it will usually melt faster than more inland.

But this can be different on a storm-by-storm basis.

Chartreuse Bison
Chartreuse Bison
2 days ago
Reply to  Mr. Fusion

Total quantity of snow per storm doesn’t matter. I’m talking about how often the cars have to drive through wet and salty roads. If anything a ton of accumulation is better, the salt gets buried. It’s the storms that don’t do much of anything but they salt the fuck out of the road just in case that are the worst for the car.

Eric S
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Eric S
4 days ago

Hell yeah to this article. We are rewatching episodes and every time I see the jeep I think we should read about it here.

Further questions for you: The promos indicate its a 3 hour ferry trip. I don’t live near ferries but is that a hell of a long distance to get there and would that make getting vehicles in and out difficult?

If you’re born on the island, it seems that you cannot safely leave the island. Does that further limit the locals shopping options for vehicles?

There are cell phones and mentions of wi-fi so I think its still set in the modern era but without that, I’d assume this was set 15 or more years ago.

Collegiate Autodidact
Collegiate Autodidact
4 days ago

“Oh, and it’s never overtly explained why the statue of the town’s founder is headless”
Maybe the head is with Jeremy Bentham?
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(Those who are a tad squeamish might want to think twice before clicking on the jpg, lol)

FleetwoodBro
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FleetwoodBro
4 days ago

Also tube TVs. They’re going for something with the CRT TVs, not sure what it is. I’ve thought entirely too much about this. My sketchy theory is that individuals can’t pick up OTA TV transmissions from the mainland (too far) so they have a tall local antenna with a re-transmitter that has never been upgraded and is analog only — but where is the 4:3 programming coming from? In 2026 there’s no OTA, satellite or cable source of analog 4:3 programming to re-transmit. It’s possible they have a local analog cable TV system that was installed in the eighties and never upgraded. But again, where they’re getting the original broadcast feed is a mystery.

D-dub
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D-dub
4 days ago
Reply to  FleetwoodBro

It’s all just ambiance devoid of meaning. It kind of ruins my suspension of disbelief. Ghosts, demons, monsters, sure! But it’s a family vacation destination and there’s not one late-model Highlander or RAV4 around? Bullshit!

Last edited 4 days ago by D-dub
Tong Thrower
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Tong Thrower
4 days ago
Reply to  D-dub

Ghosts, demons, monsters, sure! But ten year old cars on an island off Maine?!?

Cyko9
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Cyko9
4 days ago

I might’ve seen some ads on Roku or something, but it didn’t click it’s an Apple TV series. If the Jeep is a 2001, is this set in present-day? Period settings are so popular, I thought it was going for the early ’90s.

So close to the ocean, that Camry should be dust.

Mr. Fusion
Mr. Fusion
3 days ago
Reply to  Cyko9

It’s present-day, but due to various circumstances, the island is behind the times in terms of…almost everything. (And no, it’s not a time loop or a literal “exists outside of time” situation.)

Tj1977
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Tj1977
4 days ago

I know that 240 very well…I’m almost 100% certain it’s one I used to co-own.

Autonerdery
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Autonerdery
4 days ago

The Volvo cab is a 145, not a 245. 1971, I think. Vent windows in the front doors are the easy tell, as well as the absence of wraparound front turn signals, which is less easy to discern in that grainy image.

A. Barth
A. Barth
4 days ago

Oh, and it’s never overtly explained why the statue of the town’s founder is headless

I’m assuming it’s a reference to the Simpsons episode where Bart gives in to [perceived] peer pressure and saws the head off the bronze Jebediah Springfield statue.

Canopysaurus
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Canopysaurus
4 days ago
Reply to  A. Barth

Could be, could be. As it’s callled Widows Bay, I thought it might symbolize the death of paternalism through beheading in a manner similar to the female mantis’ devouring the male’s head after mating.

Undecided profile name
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Undecided profile name
4 days ago
Reply to  Canopysaurus

I’ve watched the show, a no spoiler answer is: I think it’s because the town has an issue with the founder.

Canopysaurus
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Canopysaurus
4 days ago

That makes a lot more sense.

Canopysaurus
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Canopysaurus
4 days ago

Was hoping to see a BRAT.

Trust Doesn't Rust
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Trust Doesn't Rust
4 days ago

I remember seeing the the Champ and saying out loud “Holy shit, a Plymouth Champ!”

At that point, my wife looked at me, rolled her eyes, and said “I like you.”

D-dub
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D-dub
4 days ago

They’re doing the thing Severance started, using only old cars without any in-story reason for it. It’s just to set an other-ness to the vibe of the show.

Clark B
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Clark B
4 days ago
Reply to  D-dub

At least there’s a plausible explanation, since it’s set in a sparsely populated, isolated area. What drives me nuts is something set today where someone is supposed to be “poor” so they give them an old car. But the car is something way older than is realistic, oftentimes something that has appreciated in value. Or you’ll see a character who knows nothing about cars, but somehow has an immaculately maintained 50 year old car as their daily.

D-dub
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D-dub
4 days ago
Reply to  Clark B

There’s no plausible reason for everyone in town to be driving 30-50 year old cars unless the last auto ferry sank 30 years ago

Clark B
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Clark B
4 days ago
Reply to  D-dub

Torch mentioned that there were some more recent vehicles but if “recent” is 30 years old then I agree with you 100%. There would absolutely be late model vehicles, and they would be far more common than anything built prior to the 21st century. Plus if they’re on the coast, wouldn’t most old cars have rusted away by now?

If you have to have your characters driving old cars, just make it a period piece and be done with it. Many of the vehicles featured in this article would be realistic in about 1990, but not today.

Mr. Fusion
Mr. Fusion
3 days ago
Reply to  Clark B

There are circumstances that are particular to the show’s universe that explain it. But there is one spoiler-free reason I can share: They’re poor and isolated!

Pneumatic Tool
Pneumatic Tool
4 days ago

I noticed this about the series as well – the Champ really caught me.
Great car casting seems to follow Matthew Rhys around – it was very much a part of The Americans.

Huja Shaw
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Huja Shaw
4 days ago
Reply to  Pneumatic Tool

Tangent . . . a sleeper cell of Soviet agents disguised as a husband and wife with kids, lived about a mile from me. Rumor has it they were (at least partially) the inspiration for “The Americans.”

Pneumatic Tool
Pneumatic Tool
4 days ago
Reply to  Huja Shaw

Damn, I read about them.

RataTejas
RataTejas
4 days ago
Reply to  Huja Shaw

I myself am a sleeper cell of Canadian agents disguised as a husband and wife with kid.

Rich Mason
Rich Mason
4 days ago
Reply to  RataTejas

They already know who you are.
And why you are here…

RataTejas
RataTejas
4 days ago
Reply to  Rich Mason

It sure as heck isn’t for the healthcare. Maybe for the weather and the mexican food.

Huja Shaw
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Huja Shaw
4 days ago
Reply to  RataTejas

To spread the poutine gospel.

Rublicon
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Rublicon
4 days ago
Reply to  Huja Shaw

Go home you maple syrup drinking capitalist!

RataTejas
RataTejas
3 days ago
Reply to  Huja Shaw

The Canadian Holy Trinity

Fries
Brown gravy
Cheese curds

Huja Shaw
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Huja Shaw
3 days ago
Reply to  RataTejas

I thought the Canadian Trinity was Wayne Gretzky, Celine Dion, and William Shatner.

OverlandingSprinter
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OverlandingSprinter
3 days ago
Reply to  Huja Shaw

You’re a little out of date. Today’s trinity are Conner McDavid, Tate McRae and one of the Ryans (Gosling or Reynolds).

CR-V Oswald
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CR-V Oswald
1 day ago
Reply to  Huja Shaw

Neil, Geddy and Alex!

CR-V Oswald
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CR-V Oswald
1 day ago
Reply to  RataTejas

I’m just sleepy all the time. The neighbors suspect nothing.

Sammy B
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Sammy B
4 days ago

Next week is the finale, so this could be very good timing to pick up a free trial of Apple TV (is that still a thing?) and binge. Or grab it for a month watch the whole series one weekend. It really is quite good.

And like most Autopians, I’ve definitely been clocking the cool cars throughout the series so far. Seeing that Greenbrier van last night was fun a nice treat.

OverlandingSprinter
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OverlandingSprinter
4 days ago
Reply to  Sammy B

Plur1bus is another good watch. It’s sci-fi, but really grounded in a story of human desire for free will in a community environment. Vehicles are well-cast minor characters, especially a ~1960 MG Midget.

Another Apple TV hit is Slow Horses, which is both hilarious and harrowing, with marvelous casting. Vehicles are not featured players although Jackson Lamb’s grimy, late 1990s Honda Civic suits the character well.

Last edited 4 days ago by OverlandingSprinter
Lost on the Nürburgring
Lost on the Nürburgring
4 days ago

Pluribus, Silo, and Slow Horses are all excellent…

FiveLiters1
FiveLiters1
3 days ago
Reply to  Sammy B

Watched up to the next to last available episode tonight, figured I’d wait til the finale and catch that one and the finale, as they are only like 31 minutes long or so. This episode 7 was a bit campy, and at times, I almost wanted to root for the bad guy cause the people were so obtuse. But all in all, it’s a fun distraction to watch.

OverlandingSprinter
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OverlandingSprinter
3 days ago
Reply to  FiveLiters1

Started watching Widow’s Bay after reading Torch’s…. review? … and other comments here. I had no idea Matthew Rhys had any comedy chops, but he sure displays them here. The strengths of any series are, IMHO, in this order:

  1. Quality writing
  2. Minor character casting
  3. Lead character casting

Widow’s Bay gets these right.

Anonymous Person
Anonymous Person
4 days ago

I’ve never even heard of Apple TV.

But I like the van.

Flyingstitch
Flyingstitch
4 days ago

A couple of miles from me sits a heavily patina’d Greenbriar, not sure if it’s operational. I want so badly to get close to it, but that would involve significant trespassing. On the same property is some kind of Beetle-based dune buggy, with the donor car’s body on blocks at the back. The whole setup belongs on Widow’s Bay.

Antti Kautonen
Antti Kautonen
4 days ago

The series is called Widow’s Bay and they don’t have a Bay Wi(n)dow bus? Sheesh

TheDrunkenWrench
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TheDrunkenWrench
4 days ago
Reply to  Antti Kautonen

They call it that cause driving around in a 60s cabover van is a great way to make your wife a Widow.

The coolest thing about cabovers is you’re always the first one to the accident!

Max Headbolts
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Max Headbolts
4 days ago

Cabovers, when you want to be the crumple zone!

RataTejas
RataTejas
4 days ago

Had an ’82 Westfalia. Can confirm.

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